The game has a Skill Bloat issue

Cool, then play evoker and leave my spec alone.

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Its not “your” spec lmao

You don’t know that. So, leave it alone. You have what you want, you said as much, leave the rest of us alone.

I do know that because you don’t own the rights to the game

So, common usage. This isn’t my character either, but when I refer to ‘my mage’ the masses aren’t running into the thread screaming about it, most people aren’t that pedantic. Guess that doesn’t apply to everyone.

I don’t care about anything you just said.
Anyway, reduce button bloat pls. It’ll attract new players.

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How did you even type that put with so many keys? Reduce alphabet bloat, make everyone move at the speed of our slowest humans.

I dunno man, i jist realized i cant concecrate as ret… but no. I can, its just that 1 button does both blade of justice and concecrate :rofl::rofl:

or, hear me out, git gud!

Outside of 2 specs (enhance and brew) classes aren’t bloated.

It’s a get good issue.

There isn’t any button bloat. I suggest get good.

they could make some skills into combos, it’ll change into a diff skill
but dont make it boring, have like some skills branch out to dif things
and not 1,2,3 but like 1,3,5 as well or just the skill itself changes into w/e.

I don’t know what you’re talking about. Classes I play lost buttons with this rework. And you can take passives if you don’t want buttons.

People need to stop trying to dumb down this game.

So, by this, are you stating that while playing a video game we should be typing out an essay?

That’s some flawed thinking. I’m going to call it weak-sauce and reaching.

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Normally I hate when computer games start changing to become console ports. But in this case, I think it’s only a good thing because it will incentivize getting rid of the button bloat.

Difficulty in an MMO should be understanding where to stand and when to start casting and stuff like that. Not playing the piano at the same time.

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I didn’t say that, you’re applying your own meaning to what I said. Most specs aren’t bloated, most specs are in a good spot, some are more complicated than others and that’s fine.

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Less about skill more about being not very fun.

I am glad Blizzard told some of you to go pound sand and unbloated WW and AFF. The tears in the TWE Alpha threads were great. I wonder if these people even enjoy video games.

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Yup when the game was less bloated it had anywhere from 3-5x more players. Also the most played specs atm are the least bloated.

It’s weird, people confuse redundancy with skill. These are WoW only brain rot gamers who think Elden Ring or Dark Souls are bad. Infact they do, we had this debate on a other thread and the same people bashed ER and DS. They said fun and class design is not important…compared to pressing redundant skills…because of Warcraftlogs or something. Huh?

WoW only gamers are a weird bunch.

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Fun is subjective. I find having more buttons is very fun.

I like having tools for most situations.

Aff wasn’t even bloated. Nor was WW. The only bloated classes were brew and enhance.

Other then that it’s a get good issue.

Yep, this is by and large the biggest issue with Retail. It’s also why retail raiding is dead and everybody moved to Classic instead for it.

The bloat only gets worse when you try to pvp and potentially need to add even more keybinds for pvp talents.

The buddies I have left who even play retail won’t even reroll to alts because its way too much effort to relearn 20+ keybinds and complicated rotations. If they haven’t been playing the class for 5+ years already, no shot they are going to learn it now.