"The game caters to raiders."

The line is 99% of us vs you. And as i am sure people have seen me say before “YOU do not keep the game afloat, WE do.”

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“The game caters to raiders” is really just another way of saying “I’m mad I can’t get BIS gear from world quests”

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Domination shard set bonuses limited to only the raid.

Tier is available from the mythic+ and PvP vault, and now with the catalyst out virtually every single person with 278 tier will get it from mythic+ not the raid.

Could raiders get memories that only dropped from dungeons without doing the dungeons or cost honor??? Why not???

For most guilds mythic raiding is for cosmetics only because the whole raid team is in virtually full 278 from mythic+ before getting past the first 3-4 bosses.

278 tier modules from the raid itself will be disenchanted every time because there is no chance that most guilds won’t already be 4/4 278 before killing bosses that even drop tier.

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I also don’t make the game but obviously that was their intent.

This is a game that was always meant to group for end game. Seriously this might not be the game for you or you 99% of people who are on the edge of quitting perpetually. This is coming from someone who thought about quitting last patch

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You can get high level gear with M+ and rated pvp. In early Vanilla you couldn’t get anything, zero gear from raids if you didn’t raid or some boe tier pieces in the AH.

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Mythic+ is pretty damn casual.

Unless doing one Mythic+ dungeon and logging out for the rest of the week isn’t classified as casual lol.

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They could, in the first week even! LFR is time gated for 2 months, unfortunately.

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PvP. It would be fine if I could take ZM gear into a random battleground but I’d only get crushed if I tried.

With a big portion of the game basically locked out to me, what else is there really to do in this game?

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So you could get dungeon specific memories out of Castle Nathria?

Interesting.

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I know there’s a lot of twinked out people but random battlegrounds are casual content. You’ll get knocked around until you eventually don’t

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I can’t read apparently LOL. I don’t consider heroic doing dungeons but that’s my own bias I have to confront.

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If 99% of players leave the game Blizzard would pull the plug on it. The money paid by the few remaining players wouldn’t be remotely enough to keep it profitable.

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Obviously I’m calling people’s bluff.

It’s just this IS the game I don’t understand why everyone’s so confused or isn’t getting exactly what they signed up for.

You’re welcome to play the game at any difficulty you choose but you can’t expect the rewards to be better than what you’re willing to do

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I think you over estimate the number of people who play like you do

A lot of people love m+ and pvp, even if they don’t play it at a high level, medium to low level engagement into that content gives them the progression they’re after

Quite easy to breech the 252ilvl you mentioned

I’d say you are the minority

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That used to be the case, but the gear I’m allowed to get from random BGs is pathetic and would still get me knocked around. It doesn’t get better unless I become a champion rated PvPer.

Only the first part of that quote applies these days.

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If they consider raid specific memories as being raider centric I think it’s fair to call dungeon and honor specific mentors dungeon and PvP centric.

Despite the whole thing being kind of ridiculous lol.

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What you smoking?

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You people need to cut it out with this crap and stop putting words in our mouths. I’m getting pretty tired of people using this stupid strawman and spreading these lies.

Most of us never asked for this. If you can’t comprehend what solo casuals are asking for, then try having a conversation instead pulling this BS.

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Overall I agree. I was just coming at it thinking at least anyone could get the other ones whenever they wanted. But you could also say there’s world quest centric memories which nobody could get without doing the world bosses! And some of those were bis, poor elemental shamans

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I mean I’d really don’t know I don’t pvp this expansion.

I used to do two’s arena + random bg just to get enough conquest to buy one piece a week. so I would get stronger each week.

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