The game being centered around difficult content serves to create constant frustration

Both mythic plus and raiding at a heroic level are easy. The only thing that makes them difficult is not the encounters themselves but bad players

Do something meaningful with wow instead of complaining.

Oh waa boohoo, life is too hard. You have to get a job and work. uh yeah?

do you expect to get 400 dollars from working an hour at BK, no?

These work analogies are crazy. The payment structures at workplaces are designed to retain the highest performers while getting everyone else to quit. That way the company only ends up paying the most productive workers. A pay to play game’s goal is the exact opposite of that. They should want everyone to keep paying them, not just the minority of high performers who put the biggest strain on their server resources. I don’t know how so many people are getting it in their heads that modeling WoW’s reward structure around real world job compensation adds up to smart business.

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I regret that I have but one heart to give.

The main reason we have so many difficulties levels is so people find the one they enjoy doing and that becomes their main end game focus. If you cant stand the amount of preparation and wipes required to kill a mythic boss, you can stick to heroic or if you find that frustrating go sown to normal.

Same for pushing key, stop at a level where you find them fun.

I read through OP’s post and tend to agree with a bunch of it like a better overworld and more social aspects in the game but then it just kinda reads like a whine post about wanting the game to be easier so you can get free gear and I immediately tune out.

Why you gotta be like this, gen forums?

I’m a long time player and die hard fan. This has been my favorite game since I started in 2007 and I absolutely love mythic plus

Serious question. Have you found all the treasure caches and toys, killed all the named rares, caught all the minipets, done all the side quests, picked up the farmable mounts like Blanchy, leveled an alt to experience each covenant quest line?

There is a lot of content in SL that doesn’t require interacting with the sweaty M+ crowd.

And yeah, WoW has always had subs fall off. People buy the game at launch, level, play a bit, and lose interest. People uninstall Candy Crush and get bored with Planet Zoo too, despite plenty of new levels and content packs. It’s the nature of how people interact with video games. WoW does relatively well, actually, a lot better than you’d think from all the people gnashing their teeth and beating their breasts on the forums.

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Difficult content is when the downfall of WoW began when only 5% of the players can clear a mythic 15. No surprise with an even bigger difficulty and unbalance retail already at a record low number of subs

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Yeah about those subs nobody knows about love how people keep acting like they know the numbers at all.

You realize how easy it is to get that information? A simple add on that scans players who log in once at least once a month. Keep coping though that shadowlands is doing “good”

That doesn’t work lol info from blizzard works oh that is right you have none.

I see a whole lot of people say end game is boring or bad and centered around toxic eSports stuff.

I see a whole lot of people saying outside of that stuff it’s boring and all you have are world quests which are a job not fun.

But what I don’t see are a whole lot of solutions or ideas being offered. Just people complaining they consumed the content too quickly.

What happens when you beat Mario Kart 200CC and get all the trophies and such? Nintendo doesn’t cater to you. You stop playing.

Do you have useful suggestions on how to fix the problem of you consuming content too quickly. Perhaps you spend 6 to 8 hours a day and most normal people spend 1 or 2.

In your own words running spires 20 times isn’t fun. Running world quests isn’t fun. I see people non stop complain about the on rails experience or shadowlands with the story line content (which I personally thought was great for what I am paying for).

So the question begs to the OP… what is your answer? It can’t be introducing new dungeons. In your own words it would be boring after a couple times and you’d run it 10 times in a matter of a day or two or until you got the drops you need.

If dungeons aren’t the answer and toxic M+ or raids you find a chore and world quests are boring the question begs to be asked

Is it possible you have on a personal level beaten wow on 200CC and got all the trophies? Maybe it’s time for you to ubsub until 9.1

Blizzard never agreed to produce unending content. They agreed to create the content they said they would and you have the choice to both pay for that or not and also to offer suggestions on how to make the game better in your opinion and hope they take your ideas.

I just don’t see a whole lot of ideas from you.

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Read the rest of the thread besides the OP.

There are literal sites you can go on to see the exact player counts on all servers and it lines up exactly with a 41% drop

I was specifically targetting the OP though I can see how you think I said no one was offering suggestions.

You’re right I didn’t read all 192 posts though. Just replying to his original.

I’ll read here in a bit when I have more time

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That’s perfectly fine. The problem with that is that you used to be able to stop at your comfort level while still finding plenty of engaging in-game content. That’s no longer the case. Blizzard has gone out of their way to make everything below M+ and Raiding either super fast or utterly tedious. So the many players who used to happily level alts or farm valor points that they could cash in at gear vendors are now left with nothing to do but quit. That’s the whole point. Your advice in this day an age amounts to, “So quit, then.”

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DPS are brain dead most of the time. You can just spam 1 2 3 and congrats you just did that the entire dungeon and were doing good dps. If you think that just because he is a tank he doesn’t have a challenge then you clearly never done past an 8, looking at your profile that is actually correct lol

Sure. Let me just hop on my flying mount so that this activity doesn’t devolve into fighting through 5 minutes of trash mobs just to discover that the named rare that was announced 5 minutes ago has been dead for three minutes now. Oh, wait…

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I keep checking this site for that info zero in sight here.