Like, any of you guys ever try breathing? Maybe checking for your pulse to see if magic gives you one?
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Iâm so mad right now
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Bah-dum-tish
In all seriousness, its a lot like the Kaldorei and Worgen racial scene, the species got decimated for plot-points and neither race nor player base has quite recovered yet.
When we see a Forsaken Allied Race or new models for them, or the return of Undercity or something similar, theyâll be back.
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Hickory for Sylarthas
Points to Convocation of Darkness post
Rping weekly and recruiting for the Alliance deaders now as well.
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I might play again if I could be a more decayed Forsaken or just a skeledude
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Home Depot 12 foot tall skeleton
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Calia could give us some kind of evolution of the Forsaken, not a new generation of Undead, but a transmutation of the existing Forsaken into Nathanos/Sylvanas-like forms, not rotting, but âpseudo-aliveâ, meaning they can reproduce and no longer need to raise the Dead or kill the living for new recruits and replacement parts.
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Go sit in the corner and think about what you just wrote.
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No no no no no.
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'kay.
Leaving aside the Abomination there, uh, speed-leveling his blacksmithing, the thing with the Forsaken is that they are a doom species and literally every single one killed on the battlefield, and I mean permanently, head crushed, spine broken up âDeadâ, not just we stuck holes in it until it stopped moving and moved on, ignoring the fact that unless torn to shreds or aforementioned skull-crushed and spine-severed rule, the Forsaken can just be re-animated.
Before the Valâkyr joined under Sylvanas, the Forsaken didnât really care so long as they got to murk Arthas, that was their sole agenda and everything else was just a distraction.
Then Sylvanas started snorting the kool-aid and we went into some really funky territory.
Now, with Sylvanas gone for good 
and the Desolate Council in place, the Forsaken now have to deal with still existing despite everything that they wanted to happen either having happened, or being forever out of their reach, and the entire planet hating their very existence, while simultaneously knowing that Death is not the release they thought it would be.
So why not a form of pseudo-life and a slow but stable restoration of their kind, a balance point between Caliaâs Light-based Undead, their connection to the Maw and the Shadowlands, and their rightful place as the true claimants to Lordaeron and her territories? It would tie up their story nicely, keep the Forsaken theme alive and well, and give everyone around them nightmares that, no, the Forsaken arenât gone in a few decades, either from brain-rot or literally decaying to mold without replacement body-parts.
This is their land, and theyâre not giving up on it ever again.
Did you think we had forgotten? Did you think we had forgiven? Behold now the terrible recent story arcs of the Forsaken.
Undead RPers are pretty demoralised in general tbh.
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TBH Iâm kind of fine with the need for Forsaken to have to take care not to have their race erased. It should give every Forsaken RPer pause that if they die again, they canât just be brought back. And that every Forsaken who dies again diminishes their community. Itâs a nuance that isnât terrible to RP.
I donât think Blizz will put much thought into the race being portrayed as going away, however. Look at the Blood Elves - they were supposed to be diminished and they were everywhere.
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Why post when you could just not
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Go on⌠
Spare a thought towards the incorporeal undead, reduced to afterlife batteries in Shadowlands. Maybe Duskwood isnât so bad.
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sorry my undead character this expac is my vulpera death knight that dreams of how easily it would be to plague-bomb orgrimmar and instead decides to take the humane route of becoming a lawyer to curb their âfun.â
(please do not take their word on how powerful they are, they are just a little guy with a big dream.)
Oh my dear demoralized dead family members. I am right there with you.
I have many thoughts on this issue, but what a lot of them boil down to for meâas someone who has been a Forsaken main for years, and who has ridden the rollercoaster of emotion regarding our raceâs future when it became apparent that Sylvanas was going awayâis find your own happiness.
Itâs a mindset Iâve had to work on for awhile. Because for many of us, as Sarestha pointed out, the recent expansion story arcs weâve been through havenât exactly been inspirational to players of a race known for its moral turpitude and general lack of scruples when pursuing political and personal power. For me, a lot of what happened in BFA and Shadowlands seemed to be setting up the Forsaken to be reframed as another âgoodâ race with noble intentions, displacing the burden of their past evils as being caused by the influence (or just outright being the sole work) of Sylvanas andâwith her departureânudging them in a more broadly palatable direction.
But did that end up happening? Well, not really. Calia did end up in a leadership role among the Forsaken, but I appreciate how the Return to Lordaeron questline allowed longtime Forsaken NPCs like Belmont, Faranell, and Velonara (among others) to express skepticism and act as a counterbalance.
At the risk of this turning into a multi-page essay, I will simply say that despite whatever dissatisfaction I personally feel at what happened with Sylvanas, I choose to continue playing my Forsaken as I would have during the Classic/vanilla era of the game: a dark race hell-bent on survival and expansion by any means necessary. Because I like the undead, Iâm proud of my characters, and I like having to grapple with issues such as, âWhat is our purpose now? How do we continue to ensure that we donât permanently die out?â It opens the door for plenty of interesting RP and interactions.
That is honestly the main reason why I and a few friends wanted to start Convocation of Darkness (shameless guild plug for people who enjoy the old school Forsaken vibes 
): there is still plenty of RP one can do as a darker Forsaken, and plenty of characters out there who will chafe at being led by a Light-raised Menethil. And then there will be other Forsaken characters who welcome the shift, which means more opportunities for interesting RP where both sides find ways to thwart the other orâwhen the exigencies of the world demand itâgrudgingly coexist.
Blizzard can write what they want, and Iâll adhere to their canon. But that doesnât mean I wonât also find interesting ways to write my charactersâ reactions to that canon. Itâs all about creating the stories that you enjoy, because I can almost guarantee that someone else in the community will enjoy them too.
And thatâs part of what makes RP pretty freakinâ cool.
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Lolz, all yâall fell for it. This âTrollâ simply made a comment about our un alive status and it turned into a discussion of RP activity. He did say âcommunityâ but that was just enough on the line for yâall to want to cross it.
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Damn the man! I will have my soapbox, in this life or the next!
(but for real, I think thatâs one of the great things Lohkash brings to the WRA forum community: one-liners that provoke interesting discussions)
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