The Forsaken Are Lordaeron

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You mean from that fevered pamphlet that also said Anduin was in item with the Banshee Queen?

Yeah that seems like super reliable information.

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Plenty of forsaken characters were never from Lordaeron though. All of the Dark rangers, Amalia Stone, Thomas Zelling, the Leper gnomes, etc
 Sylvanas herself was never from Lordaeron. Tying the Forsaken too strictly to Lordaeron prevents other undead like the Vargul from ever becoming part of them. Why would undead Vrykul ever care about some lowly human(weak Vrykul) kingdom??

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No, from the meta knowledge that Warcraft has always functioned with comic book logic and unless you see a dead body, you should expect them to be alive. And from the whole “Suffering is the gasoline that drives our story engine”. What would be more sadistic than making Calia end up fighting her daughter?

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You don’t need to be born in Lordaeron to be forsaken.
But the forsaken own Lordaeron. Full stop. The living have no claim.
Might makes right and the alliance can’t force them out and hold the land, apparently.

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Again, the Forsaken has Capital City and parts of Silverpine.

And neither has the Horde managed to force the Alliance out considering it does hold Southshore now.

A thought occurred to me while going to Gilneas earlier. If the Alliance can managed to clean up Southshore and turn it into a base again, it can do so with the rest of Lordearon.

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I mean that would track with CDev’s dumb melodrama where characters who make Mortal Kombat’s roster look emotionally mature scream about not terribly unique familial trauma.

But I thought we were in agreement they should stop that. Lest we get another book about trust fund lushes and eels.

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Indeed! And they’re not in the new Night Elf Tree so there’s hope that Gilneas is back on the table. Preferably even before 11.0 and the possible world revamp.

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I mean Metzen is back, something tell me things will change. For good or ill who can tell at this point.

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I would love to get a small patch (assuming 10.2 is the last big patch for DF), where we see the reclamation of Gilneas, similar to how the Forsaken had their questline in 9.2.5

Then in 11.0 hopefully we get a full on revamped Gilneas.

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Honestly, I want for the next few expansion to NOT have an Expansion Hub like Valdrakken and they focus on making older players like Gilneas into a proper city/be the expansion hub.

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Plenty of people are not from Stormwind, yet it is still Stormwind. The birthplace of a citizen of a faction does not change the faction or location history. The story of the Forsaken starts and is centered around the Scouring of Lordaeron. It is the start point for everything that made the Forsaken who and what they are now.

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And the story of the Alliance started in Lordaeron, hence why even now the Alliance wants it, or at least parts of it.

But those people are not Stormwind, for example, Flynn staying in Stromwind does not mean he is no longer a Kul Tiran citizen. Similarly an Alterac risen Forsaken would not be Lordaeranian.

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The location or history of Lordaeron isn’t what attracts other undead to the Forsaken is my point. It’s the fact they value free-willed undead and provide them a safe home. There are no “Lordaeronian” customs that the Forsaken practice. The Forsaken simply occupy Capitol City. Being from Lordaeron or any cultural significance to Lordaeron is secondary to them being a free-willed undead society. Even a demon from the Twisting Nether like Varimathras being second in command for so long proves this point. Varimathras had no love or “loyalty” to Lordaeron. Only the Forsaken/Sylvanas, or so we thought
 Still, up until his betrayal no Forsaken questioned his legitimacy as a “Forsaken”.

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There were approximately two noted events from the unleashed Scourge. One that the Sin’Dorei handled without issue and one where Lakeshire turned into;

Not sure if they want to tangle with undead that have ya know a standing army, airforce etc.

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The Forsaken lack the one thing that actually makes zombies truly scary. The ability to infect people. Suffice to say we have dealt with an undead army that had a standing army and an airforce comparable to any modern one(because you know frost wyrm) and we all pretty much beat them back.

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And? They failed the people of Lordaeron in its hour of need, and those people of Lordaeron who feel during the Scouring went on to form the Forsaken.

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Really? That is not how I remember it, it was the leadership of Lordaeron that failed it. Both Terenas and Arthas were warned. The only reason there were survivors was because of Jaina and because the Alliance existed so the living could go to their other holdings.

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You’d be surprised;

“A moment passed before he sensed it. The unholy magic that had reanimated his own lifeless body now caused hers to stir. He watched in rapturous wonder as the corpse that had been his victim arose a Scourge, as driven to end life as he was. She looked at him, the fear gone from her undead eyes, replaced by smoldering rage.”

Dark Mirror

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I super think that the Forsaken should co-opt the cult the of damned remains. Shape them into a cult that seeks to ascend into eternal undeath ala the Forsaken and open their ranks to anyone who wants to join. There will always be people scared of the unknown who are willing to go to great lengths to avoid the hereafter
 certainly enough to keep the Forsaken population stable.

Added bonus being you get positive PR for not stealing corpses and reanimating them with (at best) dubious consent.

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That would be pretty neat, would be a good way of salvaging what happaned with zelling

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