The Fix to Titanforging and Gear Progression!

I’m 420 iLvl and have plenty of titanforge items and I would be ecstatic if they removed it. I miss being excited about targeting and receiving a specific item. Now, if it isn’t 425 it’s nothing to be happy about and the only way to get a 425 is by lucking out on a slot machine.

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Remember kids! Always ask for proof on your arguments and then bail when someone asks for yours.

Like I said before just make it so the rate at a typical +10 IL forge is earned is the same as live. Say you want to upgrade your 360 ring to 370. If it would take like, as an example, 10 WQs to get a forge on average just make the amount of valor consistent. Since 360 is the lowest “hard cap” on gear or whatever lets say it takes 10 valor to upgrade it and you get 1 valor per world quest. Next up is LFR/M0 at 370 so lets say 2 valor a boss for each and it takes 20. So on and so forth.

We can even keep idea of a 360 item “forging” IL cap, but with increase in valor required (in my example like 380-390 would be 4x as much or whatever but it could be exponential like titan residuum), it won’t REALLY be a huge possibility unless you actually do harder content. You still get your fairly meaningful power boost for reclears (a “guarenteed” +10 IL piece for a 9 boss reclear almost) but it is completely deterministic and predictable. I can sit down and know pretty much exactly what I am getting. The variance in play sessions would only be “did it drop” again and if nothing dropped, I might have gotten enough points to still get an upgrade. As it stands you can go on huge bad luck streaks or huge good luck streaks. Going on a bad luck streak for an entire session means you basically “wasted time”. What you do today has no bearing on tomorrow.

I’ve done more raiding and group content in BFA than any other expansion other than wotlk. The game is more accessible than ever. For example, the community tool is awesome.

I get the elites aren’t happy as they aren’t as “special” as they once were but the game is in a great place.

It’s 15 years old game in a genre that isn’t nearly as popular than it once was.

It isn’t that the game is bad so much as gamer tastes have changed.

Actually that’s not how logic works. You don’t prove things don’t exist, you prove they do. I mean, this is something people learn when they’re a child. I did like how you went from that stumble into Schrodinger’s cat where the point is about what we don’t know and the observer. Oh, and it’s pretty comical that Jalen fell all over himself to like your post even though it’s demonstrating how bad he is with logic.

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Yeah. EA said the same thing about single player games. Then God of War came out. At the end of the day, players are attracted to good games. There just haven’t been too many good ones and everyone’s resorting to doing remasters instead. Blizzard included.

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There’s a lot of truth to that. Gamers as a whole have changed and the smart companies have adapted to those changes. It’s just like tabletop gaming. Stuff that was acceptable even 10 years ago in a tabletop game is no longer acceptable today by anyone save the hardcore purists.

Some of the ways gamers have changed may not be healthy, but if a company wants to get and keep gamers, it has to satisfy those needs. Of course some of those changes are starting to buckle under the pressure like loot boxes.

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Man they did a good job with it too. Star Wars Fallen Order looks really good to.

Then remakes/remasters are hard to screw up. It takes complete idiots mess it up where most of the times you need a graphical overhaul, possibly new voice acting for better quality and keep the same mechanics but add some QoL improvements. (PLEASE REMAKE STAR WARS EMPIRE AT WAR!!!)

I’m actually disappointed with the remaster for Battlefront 2. What they need to do is implement the graphics that they did for “Battlefront EA” with all the systems they had for the original BF games. People would go nuts.

And you know what the honest answer to that is that I was trying to lead you to? The answer is, “I don’t have any evidence, it’s my opinion.” That’s it. It’s not complicated. The point being made is, very simply, I do not accept that statement to be true therefore anything that follows predicated on said statement is a line of discussion that is going nowhere. To which you either accept my refusal to accept your opinion as factual or not, perhaps we move on to something where there’s actually room for discourse. But you’re too caught up on “winning” which is something you can’t do because you already lost. You just refuse to accept it. Even if they remove forging, which they might do someday, they’re not going to remove forging and removing the ability for people doing content other than mythic content to get close to mythic geared. Mythic raiders are no longer special snowflakes that are catered to. That’s an era that’s dead and gone and while you may replicate it in Classic, I’ll put money on whether that ever comes back to retail. Any day of the week.

Two words… Loot Boxes
If they didn’t have lootboxes or micro transactions (other than a battle pass) it would have been a good game.

Congratulations. You led me exactly to what I was already saying. Fantastic job.

I know. I tried to warn my friends to not buy it because well…EA. But the graphics looked sick and I hate that the game was mediocre.

When was this ever the reason for titanforging not existing?

edit: nvm, I recognize your name. No thanks.

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Lol what?

I’m failing to see you saying “My opinion is that people left because of forging.” in that second quote. Saying Blizzard won’t release that information is not the same thing as you acknowledging that your claims about why people were leaving were opinions and were not factual.

Tbh it should be replaced with nothing.

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What does “Blizzard has all the information and I don’t” mean? Also I never stated that people left because of forging alone.

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Really? What was the reason for something not existing? That doesn’t even make sense. But yes, you can go line up behind Jalen in the salty mythic raider club.

You think linear character progression is associated with making raiders feel like “special snowflakes?”

Have you ever played an RPG before? The further you advance, the better the rewards is a completely normal progression path in the overwhelming majority of RPG’s. To think that has to do with making raiders feel like snowflakes… jeesh.

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