It’s almost likely not Xal’atath and the only other villain build-up we’ve had that’s alive is Iridikron… and he certainly does seem to fit the theme of this expansion in terms of environment… thoughts?
Probably him if anyone knows where he went
Iridikron is almost certainly going to be in The Last Titan
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I don’t care as long as we lose the fight. Part 1 of a trilogy, we can stand to not come out as the champions of the universe for once. Start Midnight as underdogs, not returning generals waiting for our triumphal celebrations.
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what if final boss is
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the jailer 
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Xal’atath might be the final boss, but we just don’t defeat her. Chris Metzen said in the Wowcast 2 weeks ago we’d be fighting her multiple times throughout the Saga.
Iridikron is most likely being saved for the Last Titan, since thats the return to Northrend. The reason I say this, is during the War of the Scaleborn (the War between Primalists and Aspects before the Sundering) Iridikron’s Lair, Harrowsdeep, is said to be within Northrend.
While this information is from the book, War of the Scaleborn and may not be held up in-game, it’s a good theory to go off of for the time being.
Harrowsdeep - Warcraft Wiki - Your wiki guide to the World of Warcraft
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Invalidus or Dementius will probably be the end boss.
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I’m not sure this is the best route either?
I could see it being a situation where we push Xal’atath back again, but outright lose? Not sure that sits well with raiders. Plus why do we get loot for losing?
Right now my money would be on a small time, patch-specific storyline and boss to end War Within. Like maybe Xal brings some type of void general back with her when she returns later, and that’s the final boss.
All of that and the fact that his whole fight is against the Titans.
You can lose a battle and still win the war. This is being billed as a multi-story arc over 3 expansions, not 3 separate expansions in a row. I’m not proposing we can’t defeat the final raid boss, I’m proposing that afterwards, the epilogue reveals we didn’t really win anything, and some cliffhanger ending puts us on the defensive entering Midnight, instead of just starting over as the grand champions and defenders of the Cosmos, ready to suddenly be powerless again when a bigger bad than the one we just killed pops up out of nowhere.
Granted, this is difficult to do when the “story” happens a week after the raid opens and the season lasts for 16 weeks longer.
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Nah, the good guys lose in the second part of the trilogy.
The Empire formula works, no need to deviate.
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Iridikron this xpac
Xalatath in midnight
Some void lord that will get friendship beamed in the last titan
What a weird thing to say.
We lost at the end of the Razagath encounter; nobody complained.
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Hard to say. So much build up and they say we are supposed to lose. Maybe an Aszhara moment. We win the fight but lose another way. Iridikron is against the titans, so he may not show up till the last expansion
You can yes, but the way this game works, going through a whole raid tier where we outright lose at the end, do you think that would sit well with the majority of raiders? A raid where you lose at the end every time?
We already killed Dementius… in TBC. In a lowly normal levelling quest.
We annoyed a minor manifestation of Dementius into leaving.
I didn’t say lose the raid. I said afterward, the story shows we didn’t come out on top, like we do every single expansion.
They basically did this in Dawn of the Infinites dungeon – we beat Deios and save Faildormu from becoming a cooler version of himself, but Iridikron still stole his little gizmo and got away to be terrible somewhere down the line. And this hasn’t “ruined the game” for players.
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No idea.
But somewhere in this saga the whole wind chime lifecycle from void to light will likely be reiterated on.
I stand corrected. Thanks
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