The era pvp changes are a mistake

Remember SoM and how bad things were at 60? The pvp changes being in at launch means most people will be AFKing in BGs.

Consider adding the era pvp changes with the AQ patch instead of at the start.

They are not in at launch… they start at Dire Maul

This is the general standard starting point for pvp on a good fresh. It’s more than fine. Perfect, tbh

Your suggestion to move pvp to AQ would make the server legit dead on arrival

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The announcement states the ranking changes will be in at the start, they just won’t apply until the ranking system and BGs come out.

I’m not saying don’t add pvp until the AQ patch, I am suggesting that they keep the ranking system as it originally was until the AQ patch, and then after it’s released they should bring the era ranking changes to classic.

This would still keep R14 somewhat prestigious for the first half of the server’s life.

I am looking directly at the roadmap.

The honor system does not come out until p2 don’t worry.

I don’t think blizzard will ever bring back the OG rank unfortunately

Really has not been since patch 1.12 came out and nerfed it the first time in OG vanilla making it EZ mode compared to the 25% HK DR system that existed before Vanilla patch 1.12.

What drugs are you taking?

We start pvping and ganking the second we can 20+

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What drugs are YOU taking?

He is talking about the honor system.

The honor system is not in until p2. That does not mean you can’t go gank people

Can you just not read or something? Go look directly at the roadmap. Alt tab and go look at it. PHASE 2 HONOR SYSTEM + BGs

There post literally says the honor changes will be in AT THE START.

I will be getting honor in hillsbrad at 25, see you there.

That’s not what the roadmap says. They mean it’s the new rank system

Either the post is wrong (and they regularly are - see SOD) or the roadmap is incorrect

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not having honor in when people hit lvl 30 would be another gigantic failure after they saw how bad gating phases was.

Look at the road map, honor/ranking system in P2.

All of the best and most sustainable vanilla server hold off just a little bit for honor, older pservers did it at launch because it was a full 3 months to rank.

If you launch fresh with the honor system in day one, you will have thousands of rank 14s week 7, making the server DOA

The decision to hold off till p2 is chefs kiss

i dont see any road map i just read literally word for word what the announcement says. “From the start”

Yes, the updated honor system is in at day 1, BUT THE HONOR SYSTEM DOESNT LAUNCH till p2 per the roadmap

People being afraid of pvp is wild

Who cares if people are r14??? You’re okay with naxx gear vs r13 gear but not okay being out geared as a pve’r?

Typical

Road map is right here.

Som died due to this. You undermine the prebis grind entirely and mc and half of bwl off the bad besides a couple items.

You don’t have any fresh server understanding or experience, just go back to sod

This roadmap.

I could be in rank 10 gear im still going to win my games

Wouldn’t let me post a link of the road map so I had to use your post lol.