sorry didnt see your post! i think your point would be certainly a solution, just outright nerfing WoE would definetly help but then it would make everything around pvp suck
I think if a rune is designed to be a tanking rune… make it a tanking rune. meaning blizzard has to stop making tank intended runes not boost the crap out of your damage… maybe make it help threat on its own and not threat from damage.
I dont think shamans should ever be super tanky if they are going for heavy burst settings.
they have… it’s called negative hp items and low hp pool and everyone gets out of snares because your melee and u want to charge into all casters range and they all hate you and you cry alot.
In a way I agree, but with way of earth you actually do not get sham rage or a ranged interrupt. It’s quite a trade off. I have gear for all 3 specs, and found that as enhance I go oom in about 10 seconds in pvp with way of earth.
But I again stress that survivability in sod is something we can’t be killing when everyone already does 2k in a global in pvp
If that’s their intended model, then survivability buffing should be the next step.
I think shaman tanks are doing well but they shouldn’t be able to go dw… other than that shamans are fine, paladins are top 5 dmg in their faction, why is that a issue, they were rock bottom in OG classic. Meta has been shaken. Enjoy and rejoice!
WEIRD like no alliance player ever said anything about avenger’s shield giving ret pallies dominance and allowing them to get on ranged classes with same range of their abilities, being unable to dispell it at all.
But cool, it is only bad when the other faction has something. And look, Shamans had it throught P1 and it wasn’t a problem at all.
Idk why you’re making this into some sort of weird horde v ally contest dude. You just look like a massive baby rn. There’s a clear imbalance currently happening no one cares about last phase except you.
what the heck are u going on about now, they literally patched it so avengers shield can be dispelled lol
are u just here to be a troll because thats certainly the impression im getting now, you arent helping the case to prevent shaman nerfs at all since u posted here
I understand what you’re going for by calling enh the current rock but the problem is no other melee has that type of survivability, or pally is the closest but even then its like half of what shaman can do. If anything shaman needs to pick between being tanky or doing a lot of damage. You can’t get both and still have all your utility its unreasonable.
RB/FT legit sims within 5dps of RB/RB the top parse shamans just run RB/RB for the threat over RB/FT
WotE requiring a shield is a -65% dps loss for shaman tanks putting them as the lowest damage tank while also not nerfing ele the stronger shaman pvp spec in organized play
Simply add a -10% or -15% damage done modifier like other defensive stances have had over the years
It is basically. You just noticed something that you haven’t noticed for other posts.
It is a bunch of low count posters with non-sod characters posting randomly every day about shamans.
IT is one thing that you actually discuss specific points on the shaman that needs to be addressed vs every single day the very same people with different alt characters posting different threads or keeping the same threads up.
They never post on their sod characters when asked.
It is not weird. It is a faction war on forums happening right now.
