If you read anything else I post I say the damage is too high with WoE. It needs to be toned down. But without WoE currently we can’t really get into a fight because getting hit with dots/ranged abilities we’re halfway dead by the time we get in. There needs to be a give and take with choosing WoE. The give is you survive longer and the take SHOULD be that we do less damage. Right now it’s survival and high damage which shouldn’t be the case.
Show me a class/spec that wouldn’t get ‘nuked in the space of a stun by a good group’.
I mean what kind of reasoning is this.
Atleast you have a 25% chance to resist said stun! 
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frost shock which drs itself and can be kited till it does nothing?
that frost shock?
The issues you’re concerned with are more about ranged classes heavy damage which yes is a separate problem entirely. But as it stands shaman is even stronger than them, also grats on gimping yourself and not using WoE I guess?
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i dont use it cause i know its getting nerfed.
im just saying as someone who plays without it , i know all too well the weaknesses of it.
if you start more than 20 yards away from the caster you might as well pack it in.
I think most shamans agree that if you don’t use WoE in PvP you’re hindering yourself but it also feels very boring.
its been posted that its getting nerfed?
Yes this is currently the case for literally every other melee except WoE shaman man. I’m also assuming you’re using you’re experience in the open world events which usually have no line of sighting available which just compounds the ranged issue.
No we just all assume it’s coming because of how oppressive it is.
I admire the dedication to level to 40 just to argue for nerfs more convincingly.
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Everyone complaining about enhancement but what about the ele shaman problem too? nobodies runes work that much in sync to offer power boosts of this nature to burst at ranged like ele shaman granting double casts, guaranteed crits, etc. A mail wearing healer class should not be doing 1.3k damage (1.8k after adding in shock) every 2 seconds. That’s a whole life bar on 8 second CD.
I’m sure once enh gets nerfed ele will be front and center, if WoE gets nerfed though, it also nerfs ele quite a bit.
cause ele folds to melee pressure and kicks and to pull off that big lava burst you have to get off a flame shock and have it not get dispelled which is a 20 yard range and can be easily kited or kicked or counterspelled.
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I think most of us want the tank version of enhance reigned into tanking damage as to not get enhance dps as a whole turned back into the p1 wet noodle wielding class we were.
Leveling is super easy now which is whats making this spec stand out even more now, the entire way to 40 I was in groups with 3-4 shamans leveling as well.
same could be said with pallies too.
Did your team let that Warlock stand 24 yards away free casting for 5.5 seconds to get that Chaos Bolt + Immolate + Conflagrate + Shadow Burn combo? You do this to an Enhancement Shaman and they only lose 50% of their health. The Enhancement Shaman then casually runs over to the Warlock and takes 75% of their health in one global.
I know shamans like to act like pally is equivalent but its really not. They’re only scary when bubble is up and thats it, after that they’re free.
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Paladins need to L2P imo
no im saying directly in leveling having a near full or 3+ pally team is around the same as having a team of shaman in leveling .