The easiest spec to play in the game shouldn’t also get to do close to the most damage

So we agree that it IS viable utility even if its not 100%?

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Oh yeah, 100%

Why are your excuses reasons, and mine are just excuses? xD

Funny what happens when you copy/paste the reasoning and you don’t even see the fallacy in your own argument.

Logs don’t measure the vast majority of average players.
Bad evidence is bad.

And your “citation” for trex is even worse. It literally shows the same info as raiderio AND it doesn’t show pets at all :joy:

So still waiting on the proper citation for “most use trex” argument.

I main a Hunter and it’s certainly not because of the attractive gear… :pouting_cat:

It’s pets isn’t it?

Tbh I’d still be survival if it didn’t go melee regardless of how well bm is doing.

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I hear these and go so…did the run go well. Less/no wipes?

To me its a good thing if someone brings more dps for easier runs. Good for them and good for the team win. Keyword…team.

Now when the 22 (tank and healz other 3) BM hunter comps come up…okay lets now have a guided discussion on nerfs.

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I just do better keeping my distance from my target. I tend to mess up melee specs more. I’ve been playing Marksman and just wish I could turn my cute pets into whatever spec I want. Wish they hadn’t taken that away.
I like the option to go without pet also, really enjoying MM.

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Because you are making excuses and I am providing a valid reason why I didnt push IO.

Because you blamed pugs. I stated I didnt push rating on a class because I was farming aspects which is a reason.

^^^^

See where they say most dwarves are using Ferocity?

The murlok IO link shows the majority of BM hunters are Dwarf.

Use some critical thinking please.

The problem with BM isn’t their ease of use, the problem with BM is the fact that they have zero downtime. Melee need to run from mechanics and lose attack range, casters need to cancel casts to move. In a perfect world, where melee and casters just get to tunnel a boss, they should do more damage than BM, imo. In a medium movement fight, everyone should be relatively equal, and in high movement, BM should get to shine. Of course, none of this is based in reality from Blizzard’s standpoint, so it is what it is. Turns out balancing around an ideal isn’t super feasible.

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Yea, as of right now, there is only 1 bm hunter in the top 20 groups. Meanwhile 19/20 have a dh.
Me thinks I spy a witch hunt :eyes:

I apologize for calling you bad. Its hard when you have certain classes like hunter where a good majority are and then players like quiver claiming to be a top player and parsing greens

Just because you think they are valid, doesn’t mean they are. Sounds like excuses to me.

Meanwhile, I do 1 normal run last tier and get drug through the mud? Yea no bud :joy:

You didn’t push because you were farming? Sounds like an excuse. :palm_down_hand::microphone:

You timed 4 twentys last season

I timed

16 on mage

1 on rogue

for 17 total.

In what world is 17 and 4 “the same”

I played mage most of the tier.

Yeah after you claimed to be a top player.

I prioritize raiding. I wasnt performing on mage at a mythic level and swapped to rogue. So yes I spent my focus on grinding gear for mythic progression over pushing IO and still was around your IO

Controversial. Most classes can be dumbed down to 4 buttons, but to play them well and to play them at a high level there is certainly no easy spec.

Take WW vs BM, on paper BM seems far easier, but WW is in fact easier to fully utilise.

As an example I got my Mage Tower done on WW, BM has the exact same fight, but I struggled with and never got BM done even though I like to think I am a better BM player.

Like with WW you can interrupt much more than BM, so with BM if you want to min/max you need to ‘interrupt’ with your freezing trap or intimidation.

Just because one spec does more damage with less buttons does not make them actually easier to play.

BM hasn’t been top dps since BFA. Let them smash the meters for a patch.

Because your rogue and my hunter were compared. Are you intentionally being this obtuse?

See, you just can’t stop using that one parse as an example :joy:
My dk killed norm sark and I was carrying damage with 2 bm hunters in group. Fun part. No one ran logs. Now multiply that by how many people play wow.

Crazy how accurate logs are huh?

Crazy what happens when you have full context huh? :joy:

The new builds do in fact make BM braindead now thuogh as it removed having to maintain barb stacks

What was the point of this post? To hate a spec? Puleez, troll mor

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You know what blows?
i legit can’t get gear, they will nerf us for no reason and i wont even be able to feel the spec being relevant again…
I dont even have the tier set to feel the new AOE build in keys.
Epic.

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