You sacrifice a lot of talents to get traps. It isn’t worth it in pve like keys as M+ is about going fast.
Traps are useless in Raids when you get to the boss, and with mobs Tanks would rather handle it their own way.
Traps have usage still in pvp, but pvp is a broken mess. Hunters ain’t topping there.
They’re on the bottom of the totem pole with utility, we’re not saying they don’t have any, please fix your comprehension.
Rogue brings Shroud. Melee brings better interrupts. Locks bring summon, cookie, SS and tongues, tongues alone is better than all Hunter utility combined. Mage is superior to hunter in every way, also brings AI. Balance brings better CC, BR and better stops and Mark. Priest brings MD, dispel, MS, MC, Fort. Shamans bring the best interrupt, purge, group cleanses, totems. DH brings darkness, sigils, interrupts and insane damage. Evokers bring tons.
Every other option is just way more attractive.
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this are why people know youre bad hunters
tranq shot
binding shot
tar trap
freezing trap
lust
ranged kick
pet stun
again the leech has more value than the defensive.
Doesn’t matter what you believe BM is by far the easiest spec in game.
You mean the tier set that makes managing barb shot stacks non existant?
Even Azorthian is on record saying BM is the most braindead its ever been.
no shot you think fury is anyhting like BM, bro is the king of copeland
Obligatory nerf demon hunters post 
That’s logs. How many users use logs vs not?
I don’t and I’d bet I’m in the upper for most of the classes I play. 
Doesn’t tell me the avg player.
Therefore not very accurate for this argument. If you are running logs, you are most likely trying to parse.
Depends. Flameshock dot is easier to manage than frenzy.
And the basic rotation is comparable. Outside of cd windows. You lavaburst and lightning bolt/chain.
But this again boils down to people being stuck on the argument of “easier”, implying specs are hard or there is a harder spec. Relatively they are all more or less the same in difficulty.
Difficulty arises when you min/max and work on the nuances. However I’d bet most don’t really care to the point where those nuances would make a great big of a deal in rotation change/management.
It’s not. Having a double exhil, more hp, renew heal = more survivability than just more leech.
Say that in a higher key when that fortitude of the bear saves your butt.
Also when none of the top hunters are using a rex… and quite a few have bears… me thinks that also helps invalidate your argument and point to “this are why people know youre bad hunters”. Sticks and stone, friend.
I say let them have their moment. They get picked on a lot, plus it keeps a mode of rage silent on the forums.
whirlwind = multishot
Rampage/raging blow/bloodthrist = barbed/cobra/kill command
The only more braindead aoe is outlaw. Bladeflurry go brrrrrrr.
You can tell who mains what, but their reaction 
Good players use logs.
The fact you’re trying to discredit logs shows you don’t have a real rebuttal.
You parsed most may greens in normal Aberus.
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/us/rexxar/quivermethis#zone=33
So no offense but I find that highly unlikely.
There’s a lot more reasons to rub logs aside from parsing.
In farm content sure. Most people aren’t trying to parse on prog kills.
The constant uptime of the leech has more value.
That’s why most good hunters are dwarf because the leech paired with stone form is better than stone form and fortitude of the bear.
You also have the other percentage defensive.
Citation? Names of these top players please.
Actually as far as the bad hunters comment goes.
They don’t even realize the utility they have.
BM Hunters bring three cast stops via interupt pet stun and freezing trap alone.
OMG, you cut me real deep Shrek. Cries in Dwarf hunter.
“Good players”. Completely ignoring that the majority, bad/average/GOOD do not use logs. It’s inaccurate point of reference other than measuring potential in the top percentile.
You mean my 1 clear at the start of aberus when I was severely undergeared? Not a great reference point there… Also another example of how inaccurate logs can be.
I don’t see the point unless you are progression so you can see mistakes and such.
But I learn everything I need to from meters.
It’s not hard to check damage taken, healing taken, damage done (and to what), interrupts, buff uptime (to see if they are managing correctly), etc.
You’d have less leech by running a bear, but more hp. And most go stoneform for the defensives as the dot drop is invaluable in the high tier content. As some dots are near instant deaths.
Raiderio for one and scroll through the list, as I did.
While they have amazing utility, their defensives are tied to long cds. Making the glass cannon comment was very accurate.
I apologized to my healer in ToTT in the gauntlet because I’m sure that was a taxing experience for both of us.
I can’t even remember a time when “Freezing Trap” was actually required and/or useful in raids. In M+, it is only useful during an “Incorporeal” week…and that’s ALSO if the add doesn’t spawn too close to other mobs otherwise those will eat the trap.
Again, in raids, “Tar Trap” isn’t really that useful unless it’s a fight with adds. In M+, it really is only useful during “Fortified” and “Spiteful” weeks.
Counter Shot has a 24 second cooldown. Every class and spec has an interrupt. Not really a good point to bring up.
We’ve talked about this: hunters lose a defensive if they need to use a lust pet.
It’s actually awful in some dungeons.
Okay I used exhil… healer I’m sorry, I have nothing left to give xD
That’s because folks like you have the creativity of a brick.
You do realize this HELPS my argument right? On top of the fact that its the most accurate way we have.
You made a claim that you play in the upper level of players. Even by Ilvl you were still a 67 overall in normal.
Thats the main reason. Logs also show a replay where people are, if they are in proper positions what talents they are running. There is extreme value for running logs.
Yes which is why most people run the trex as it gives them leech and lust. The issue with hunters is how they rot in higher keys. most big spike damage will be covered with healer CDs .
Please show me where raider IO displays the pet used.
Good thing I was talking about utility and not defensives.
Awww you find some complex. Lol skill issue
Yeah I made it until the end but by the two sentries I was out of everything and I just saw soothing mist being funneled into me pretty desperately lol