I have seen some boys and girls green parse their way through several ces. pro, reclears, ever;ything.
THERE IT IS!!!
THE SNOZO EFFECT!!!
Edit: Now I’m expecting everyone else to post their BM parses.
all the ones who doubted snozo
I mean its a much smaller pool of players.
Mans has been talking mess the entire post and refused to look at previous seasons, but its okay to post sanctum logs from SL? Get outa here 
Tbh this entire thing started because he made claims that ‘every hunter that is a dwarf uses trex pet’, and posted that video as well as a guide.
But yea, a vast majority of his posts here have been calling people mediocre and biased opinions on hunters in general. And if you refute his claims, he goes for attacking your experience, while providing very little other than “hunters are the easiest class”. Which is super subjective.
…But clearly he knows what he’s talking about?..
Which expansion would you prefer he post his parses on?
This seems like you’re moving the goal post.
He kind of dropped a big bomb on ya’ll though.
Even if he went about it the wrong way.
And providing the source from the dude who plays hunter more than any of us is a pretty big source of information.
What are you even talking about?
I already admitted I was partially wrong on that but the main issue is yall got mad because I said BM is the easiest spec in the game and I called you out on your claim of being a upper level player.
Yet my experience is null and void?
I’ve mained a hunter since pretty much mid wrath. Have at least 6 total. Casually got at least 10 m+ portals.
Yet because I don’t raid or because I’m in the 10 percentile for m+, I’m mediocre?
That’s the kind of stuff I mean. It’s not moving the goal post. It’s I don’t have raid parses like him, therefore I don’t have a clue.
Tbh you should read through the nonsense that’s been going on. The only bomb I’ve seen is his inflated ego from parses.
Actually you didn’t. You kept telling me to check your source or give YOU a citation
You’ve never once admitted any kind of fault.
No, It’s just a less credible source compared to somebody who’s participated in higher level content.
It’s not a jab at you.
a student in college studying for a degree in medicine does not have more credibility than a certified nurse or a doctor.
It’s just how it goes.
I did read through it.
Everyone said he was clueless about hunter (including you) and he just posted his parses to show his experience.
At this point, I’m not sure what else he could do for you guys.
He even cited one of the most credible dudes when it comes to hunters.
Somebody that isn’t biased about the specs…
Everyone ignored that information as well.
It seems like everyone got offended that their spec is being called “easy”.
This thread summed up in a nutshell
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More so multiple people, including myself, said all classes are easy. Bm isn’t special. Which gets twisted into “bm is hard”. Then queue the circle argument.
This has been going on for over 24 hours. He just NOW linked his hunter parses. And even then, that’s SL. Which imo, SL bm was more brain dead than now (mostly because of how talents worked and how op wild spirits was).
So he lacks DF hunter experience.
But this entire time, claimed bm is the most braindead and didn’t link anything other than a yt video. So I am sure at this point, you can see why he was being called out so much.
More so epeening parses. How many times did you link my one parse from early s2 whilst ignoring my other experience?
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I mean, all classes are easy if you don’t m+ or raid with them…
That’s why that statement loses credibility after a certain point.
Once again, it’s not an insult.
BM was not broken in SL, MM and surv were doing much better in SL than BM.
Lets not forget that amazing tier set that duplicated bombs for surv…
So his parses in SL are very valid.
The youtube video is by the guy who plays more hunter than any of us though…
Where do you get your information from?
Imo they are all super easy in M+ as well. Where difficulty arises is using min/max builds. But even then, muscle memory removes all that difficulty after short practice.
True, but because of how simple bm was. It had insane burst potential, especially with NF lego. Without wild spirits, it wasn’t great.
I played around with all the covs, just to see. Heck trying to rng flayed shot was a nightmare.
Surv, I feel like they broke it and just left it lol.
Several guides, bloodmallet, simming, checking out top players and seeing what they do.
More like multiple people who play hunter stating biased opinions.
No one asked for them but Yen who refuses to link his hunter.
This statement is why you have zero credbility.
BM in SL still had to manage frenzy stacks.
BM didnt change that much aside from losing spirits and gaining Death Chakram.
A youtube video where the guide writer from youtube made a statement saying BM is the msot braindead its ever been in 10.2.
More like using parses to confirm your lack of credbility.
I went to season 2 and your logs because those were the most recent.
Maybe in low keys where dps doesnt matter, sure.
Some classes take a lot more time to learn, arcane mage is a great example.
So…by the same guy in the YT video?
Frenzy management wasn’t hard in SL. That was simply refreshing at the last second, but yes it was impossible to maintain 100% uptime unless you got very lucky with reset procs.
Tbh my class knowledge at this point should have proved credibility.
You are also judging me off raid logs when I don’t raid. Or run logs.
Rotation shouldn’t change much between high and low keys other than uptime due to hp.
It’s all practice.
Yea I used this as an example earlier. Arcane and fire are probably the two easiest to mess up or play incorrectly.
I guess, if he wrote all the guides on every website, sets the profiles for bloodmallet.
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Yet people still struggled with it. Like that BE hunter that rerolled Destro lock from the hunter forums.
Your ego is bigger than your actual class knowledge. Further proof time spent playing a class doesnt mean everything.
I also looked at your mplus logs. I even told you that.
Theres a big difference in big and low keys.
Guess who also has decent parses as arcane and fire?
You can’t bring a fun / lower performing build into high keys, so yes, the rotation changes a lot and execution matters a lot more.
So why are you discrediting him if he’s the one who stated BM is a lot easier to play now than in SL?
There’s even a talent that increases the duration of your frenzy stacks…Which actually makes it impossible to drop unless you outright just forget.
As I said yesterday, classes are as hard as you make them. BM isn’t exclusive to this.
You are entitled to your wrong opinion.
No idea what those even look like, as I don’t use logs.
I do know the keys I ran, and the + I’ve completed.
And it’s not rotation. Well… Unless it’s bursting.
Now who’s ego is big.
Well that goes back to min/maxing. My build doesn’t change between high and low keys. I like pumping. That is my fun build. So I guess I don’t know what you mean.
I never once said they don’t know what they are talking about. I simply disagree due to my own personal experience.
A lot of hunters I see rarely use multi shot, and choose to barrage. So I don’t think forgetting is even on the table for that lol.
I feel like barbed resets A LOT this xpac in comparison to SL, but I wouldn’t put that on the difficulty meter though. You are still checking frenzy stacks and timers, making sure it doesn’t drop off, even if we are forever at 1 charge of barbed.
how about this factual statement.
On average BM hunter uses 35 APM, where as a fury warrior is using 65 APM…
That means the fury warrior has to put out almost double the effort due to match the output of BM hunter…
Many other melee specs have massive APMs, like rogue and enhancement shaman.
BM is statistically one of the more chiller specs and still being able to pump…
making it once of the easier specs in the game compared to the other 27 DPS specs.
There’s data that disproves your “experience”.
It wasn’t easier or harder to play in SL. It was clunky in a different way. I loved soulforge ember, I wish it would come back in some way. Was still clunky.
Yes, we traded maintaining stacks, for spreading stacks. Neither are “hard.”
The difficulty in WoW, since WoD has shifted to the mechanics of the content, not the rotations themselves. Are we out here trying to argue that vanilla spriest was hard because we had to manage mana?
I’ve mained fury since tbc. I have ce’s and decent parses. I don’t think fury is harder.