Yeah, the one threat that the dragons were actually instrumental in resolving was from within their own ranks…
Maybe, just maybe OP, you’re looking too much into it?
That’s an oxymoron. Sex is biological. Gender is sociological.
As a male who identifies as “fully male,” I realize that I’m one of the lucky ones, if not “generic.” It would have been rough growing up if I didn’t “click” with societal norms, having to dance around my own identity and not having the luxury of just being my damn self.
They’re different words for a reason. They’ve been conflated due to misuse, but that doesn’t change that. If you choose to misuse them, you are choosing to “blur the lines.”
Sex is about biology and reproduction.
Gender was originally strictly about the meaning and traits that society had ascribed to that biology - even before the definition was expanded beyond the simple “male or female” dichotomy. Anthropologists use the term to compare and contrast differences in masculinity or femininity between two cultures or communities. Because those differences can and do exist, even if they’re biologically identical. And again, later the term was expanded to refer to more than simply male and female. Because that’s why the term is coined.
Perhaps not, but it surely is measurable.
In a perfect world, this type of discussion would be absolutely pointless. But we don’t live in that perfect world. If someone self-identifies as something other than what is most socially acceptable - in other words, if they identify as “queer,” it has a measurable impact on their life.
And it’s not all that complicated - sex and gender are two different words with two different meanings. They’re associated terms, for sure, but they’re different. And they’re different for a reason. To provide that contrast between social and biological roles. To make discussions like this possible. And to improve the situations for those who might not conform to an “acceptable” role.
This isn’t a “me” thing, though. This isn’t even a recent thing. Even in my youth, taking a few anthropology courses, the distinction was present. It’s often misused by lay people - myself included, prior to learning this, but that doesn’t excuse the choice to conflate the terms once the distinction has been made.
if that were true then these threads wouldn’t be popping up every day saying notice me because NOTHING IN THIS GAME effects if your queer or not in real life.
it’s not about being accepted…cause most people do including me
(go to china or the middle east if you want to be truly oppressed)
(live and let live, just leave me alone and don’t force your beliefs / propaganda / bullcrap / etc./basically fill in the blank) … it’s about being loved and promoted for your choice and then these same people are quick to say everyone is a bigot for not having same think/wrong think
I have had/meet several gay friends and coworkers, but that doesn’t mean I agree with the lifestyle choice or think it should be promoted as something normal, but I am all for YOU BE YOU, but don’t expect everyone to agree with you, but never treat anyone as subhuman unless they are some evil psychopathic mass murderer that loves killing kittens and puppies.
From Merriam-Webster:
sex: “either of the two major forms of individuals that occur in many species and that are distinguished respectively as female or male especially on the basis of their reproductive organs and structures”
gender: “SEX sense 1a” (which links back to the provided definition of sex)
Believe it or not, the dictionary can be wrong. Especially if a word is commonly misused.
You also left out the following
b. the behavioral, cultural, or psychological traits typically associated with one sex
c. gender identity
Now we’re getting into a whole nature vs. nurture debate, and that’s a line of discussion with absolutely no end.
As far as I can tell, no one has posted the same thing I did, specifically. Particularly not in a positive light.
Give me some examples. People can also misuse and make up definitions for words where they don’t apply and/or exist.
The misuse is thinking sex and gender are two different terms with differing definitions, as I proved in my previous reply.
I also left out the secondary and tertiary definitions of sex. What is your point? It is more telling that the primary definition of gender in regards to sex is to link back to the definition of sex.
I can claim that a word has whatever definition I want it to, but it doesn’t make it so.
If you really want to get into the etymology, gender began as a strictly categorical and grammatical term, completely unrelated to sex. So if you genuinely want to be a stickler, you might want to object to its conflated meaning.
But language evolves.
Eventually, nerds started making grammar-related puns and jokes with the term to relate it to biology. Eventually, it was adopted as a “softer” way to refer to sex without being so “vulgar.” And it was eventually adopted by academics as a separate term to differentiate societal roles from biological sex.
Language evolves.
Context also matters. If you’re using “gender” when talking about driver’s licenses or whatever, sure, you can get away with the common usage of the term. But in discussions like this that are predicated entirely on that distinction? Well, then you’re just being willingly provocative.
Which is…? Also, gender as a term exploded into use in the late 90s into the early 2000s, as seen here: https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?year_start=1800&year_end=2019&corpus=26&smoothing=7&case_insensitive=on&content=gender&direct_url=t4%3B%2Cgender%3B%2Cc0%3B%2Cs0%3B%3Bgender%3B%2Cc0%3B%3BGender%3B%2Cc0%3B%3BGENDER%3B%2Cc0
To which I repeat myself: what is that meaning? Interesting how you avoid providing information and evidence to back up your claims…
Never said it didn’t, but still doesn’t refute the fact that the primary definition of gender is:
"a subclass within a grammatical class (such as noun, pronoun, adjective, or verb) of a language that is partly arbitrary but also partly based on distinguishable characteristics (such as shape, social rank, manner of existence, or sex) and that determines agreement with and selection of other words or grammatical forms
membership of a word or a grammatical form in such a subclass
an inflectional form (see INFLECTION sense 2a) showing membership in such a subclass" (again, all from Merriam-Webster)
Oh wait, none of those definitions mention sex at all. I guess I’ll go to the second primary definition of gender:
Oh.
Citation needed.
So the definition I have proved twice now. A lot of text for no point…
This has nothing to do with the term gender. Try again.
Repeating this as if you made a point with it the first time…
So you even admit gender means sex. Great, I am glad we agree.
I am using the term correctly. Sorry you have a problem with that.
Hahahaha
Genders are male/female.
Identifications don’t change how you were made and came out the womb.
Again back to those chromosome thingamajigs.
You can be a male or female that prefers whatever you like in life.
Enough political propaganda. Keep this stuff out of wow
How do you even come to this conclusion OP?
It’s not about gay people at all—never forget that. It’s about straight people having the ability to virtue signal and make decisions FOR gay people.
Biological sex is dependent on chromosomes—which aren’t always XY because you sometimes get XXY and other unusual configurations (but I digress).
Gender is a social construct.
You are already treating me subhuman b calling it a lifestyle when being gay simply isn’t a choice it’s a part of a person just as much as their skin color.
and already your proving my point, it’s not about being accepted for who you are… you want people to think exactly like you and love you for your choice.
as far as we know about being gay it’s not genetic, it’s not as deep as skin color is, it’s a life style choice/personality on who you sleep with/attracted to.
as I said you be you, I treat you as I do everyone else, I would help you if I saw you had a flat tire on the road, as i don’t care about who you sleep with. YOU GO BE YOU!
but don’t preach to me and say I am calling you subhuman for a different opinion