The DF time skip is 5 years

BFA gutted me.

I finally got my Jet Pack and they tied it to Mechagon and I can’t use it outside there.

RAGE I tell you.

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I wish we got BfA during the Pandemic vs Shadowlands but at least Shadowlands united the player base in universally hating Shadowlands and Sylvannas.

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God, BfA during the Pandemic probably would have sparked a WoW revival.
Shadowlands just prompted the quiet exodus from the game, especially with its ridiculous time gating systems.

If it had been BfA, we’d have had Warfronts popping every thirty seconds.

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Seriously, the main reason I am honestly playing WoW at all these days is because the pandemic effectively ended all my social activities and I am home now more than ever.

I literally quarantined for a year and a half and had everything delivered to me because I had to be on-call to help an immunocompromised family member. I probably would have got the FOMO title from Nzoth Visions and other things lmao . WoW was a welcome distraction and place to go during the Pandemic.

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I will lament about how BFA singlehandedly killed this game for me. For folks who know me, I love pirates. I was so unreasonably excited for Kul Tiras and the Alliance zones that I was willing to push aside the incredibly stupid storytelling of the ending of Legion, and even the incredibly awful reasoning and justifications of giving the allied races to the Horde and Alliance respectively. Let’s not even get started about the Horde committing genocide five minutes into BFA.

Seriously, I was seeing red when it was first announced that the Horde got two races simply by playing Legion actively in the past while the Alliance had to actively grind out two new faction reputations to exalted just to unlock their recolors. I also remember everyone actively hating Void Elves at the time, unaware that they would probably become the least egregious, if not the most liked, out of all the stupid Allied Races.

Anyways, pirates. I loved the concept of BFA. Wolf here was a Kul Tiran pirate the moment I went back to Worgen after Mists and I almost lost my mind when it was announced that we’d be going there. They gave cool zones, that entire freaking pirate zone, and what appeared to be a whole bunch of cosmetics. I was so ecstatic that I ran a few pirate RP events and had a blast doing it.

And then BFA launched. Then I found out that the pirate stuff was 98% NPC only, that the Alliance zones were basically “this is how the Horde is making your life harder” outside of freaking Drustvar (and even THEN there was Horde activity), and that the pirates were sequestered into one single zone. All the sort of energy I had for the expansion puttered into nothing, doubly so since they locked the Kul Tirans behind the next patch despite being a freaking SELLING POINT of the expansion.

For real, do you know how mind numbing it was to walk into Stormsong Valley and going “wow this is really pretty!” and then having Horde pinning people to walls with spears and making their children watch? To see them, quite literally, wanting to burn down an orphanage? And that this was a reoccurring thing in Alliance questing? I did both the Horde and Alliance questing zones, and all of the Alliance zones had them fighting the Horde as major parts of their questing experience. Meanwhile, the Horde barely had any at all and it was like I was playing two different games.

Anyways, BFA was the beginning of the end for me and I loathe it with all of my being. It only became more apparent when they decided to completely toss out the entire freaking point of THESE ARE THE WORLD’S SUPER POWERS OF NAVY BATTLE AND OOPS HERE COMES SYLVANAS 5HEAD CHESS MOVE AND JUST COMPLETELY RUIN BOTH OF THESE FACTIONS. So stupid. Hate this game.

Thanks for coming to my Ted Talk.

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i can’t relate to this complaint because I ground out argussian reach reputation purely for the talbuk mounts way before allied races were announced

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THIS

Anyone who knows me knows that when it comes to WoW I live to deep dive into Blizz’s actual database looking for unused armor, assets, etc. tbh, I should stop doing it because it usually just makes me sad and angry over all the cool things we never get.

I cannot begin to tell you the rage I harbor for BFA when it comes to pirate items. The amount of unused assets or items that are “unavailable to players” with a pirate theme is in the triple digits - boots, shirts, glasses, hats, bandanas, weapons, etc etc.

I will never understand what TPTB are thinking when they make moves like this.

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If you play both factions, you get to be twice as disappointed.

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Alliance questing in BfA is so thematically all over the place.

Still stand by Stormsong is the worst zone in the game. We have four different threats that are completely unrelated to each other but dealt with one after another. First it’s Quill Boar but then suddenly it’s now Horde which was originally Quill Boar but changed to Horde last minute so we have a reason to hate the Horde more I guess? Then back to Quill Boar??? Then wrapped up with some Naga and finally spoopy Old God cultists. Like what the heck??

Drustvar wasn’t bad but so isolated from everything else going on, which might be why it’s so well received. Want to take a break from the war story and Kul Tiras drama, go fight some spooky scary ghost witches or something.

Tiragarde Sound was so forgettable that I don’t even remember what I did except something about helping some estate I think? Then some trappers in the wood? What did we even fight at the estate? Was it Horde again? I literally don’t remember lmao.

Horde had much better and more enjoyable questing in BfA, I rather level a character Horde side and then faction change them later. Every zone has a reason for you to be there and it all ties back nicely to Zandalar and Uldir.

lmao same! They are honestly awesome upgrade and I use one ICly for all my Draenei characters.

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Stormsong was the worst BfA zone, for sure.

Like if they tried to add Cthulhu to the Sound of Music.

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Don’t forget just tacking on the Darkest Dungeon reference zone because that’ll age gracefully as well as everything else they’ve referenced.

Haris Pilton, for example.

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I understand some people liked BFA, and that’s fine. I will just never relate, as I considered it one of the worst expansions along with WoD and Shadowlands. These are just so unanimously awful to me that it’d be nothing but lies if I tried to find anything “redeeming” about each of these expansions, since it’d feel more like me trying to make excuses as to why i spent my money on them rather than justifying me playing.

After having gotten a taste of what a game’s story can actually be like when the writers care, it’ll be interesting to see what they try to do for DF. Because the track record of Blizzard hasn’t been good in literal years, and I don’t think one time skip is going to help solve so many problems they already have.

That said, I am curious to see if the time skip will even matter in the grand scheme of things. I almost feel like they’ll forget they even did one at all.

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My fav alliance bfa zone was the login screen… I mean Drustvar. All the other zones were forgetable tangles of BS story-wise.

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I liked Tiragarde Sound for providing a smorgasbord of Kul Tiran culture to sample. Drustvar had a very gripping plot which makes me approve of the zone, though it did feel a bit too disconnected in culture/environment/themes from the rest of Kul Tiras for me to give it an A+. Stormsong had pretty janky and depressing stories, but it was a nice zone to run around in - enough that I didn’t hate those endless, endless laps collecting honey for the bee mount. That kind of zone design is something I miss now from playing through other games.

My biggest issue with Kul Tiras is that I couldn’t fully enjoy it, because after every single quest beat, my thoughts would drift back to ‘ok, but why am I not in Ashenvale reclaiming my towns from the Horde instead?’ That was the problem of leaving the Teldrassil plot threads dangling, though I don’t think Blizz thought of it that way when they wrote it.

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I will be forever bitter about the Azshara one and how it marked the point where my once favorite npr was ruined for me.

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I enjoyed BFA a decent amount, but I am a troll simp, so my experience and memories of it are heavily biased.

Although what they did to my man Rastakhan did damper that…wait…and Azshara… and Sylvanas… a-and N’zoth…

ALRIGHT new statement! I enjoyed the beginning of BFA!

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Me too, I loved Dinotopia, I played more horde side in BFA than I have in any other expac. I especially liked the properly set up archaeology dig outside the capital. Usually Blizz just tosses down a few tents and tables. This time there had them roped off and it actually looked like something you’d see at a dig site.
And I know that the blood trolls were just enemy mobs but I really liked them and wanted them as the allied race… or at the very least a troll cosmetic option; I’d have been just peachy with that.

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I respectfully disagree. BfA was the first time I ever leveled an Alli because the Horde experience finally pushed me to say, “f this.” I was so mad at being nothing more than Nathanos’ errand boy everywhere that I made a human paladin.

Let me repeat: BfA was so bad for me that I- Conqueror Borgg, Orc warrior, slayer of Alli filth for over 15 years- felt that making a human character would be more fun. I mean I was wrong, but that I got to that point should be telling for anyone who knows me at all.

I’m not saying you are wrong about Alli quests. I’m just reiterating that no one had a good time.

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I’m just happy he’s re-dead. I was so sick of him by the end of bfa.

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Oh man, Nathanos. What a sore thumb of an otherwise enjoyable questing experience for Horde. What weirdo thought it’d be enjoyable to have that windbag constantly talking you down the entire questing experience?

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