transmog and stat balancing which is stupid
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Honor gear maybe sure. But we canāt upgrade the honor gear to tier so idk what you are getting at
For anyone who might be concerned about alts:
I just logged on the PTR, and my alts are able to use the creation catalyst despite only being on Chapter 3 of the campaign (where you skip to).
So it seems that you just have to unlock the catalyst on one character to use it on any character.
Hopefully that stays the same.
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Those are totally fair points.
But I donāt think it neutralizes the Normal level of the raid. Namely because you still need trinkets and weapons and good ones of those things typically only come from the raids (or the other activities like PVP and M+). So there are still good reasons to dip into the raid at least.
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bad system took too long, and now on a gate-keeping 4 weeks, absolutely horrible.
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While no doubt great news for some, this is mostly the opposite of what I and maybe a few others were hoping for out of the first week with the catalyst. The system initially being this open to all mains and alts as a catch-up unilaterally helps those that were lucky in getting a set bonus prior to 4/12 while continuing to shortchange those that have experienced total or near-total bad luck despite full GV engagement every week since release.
The unluckiest of mains and the alts of all now proceed at the same pace from here. Power disparities will even out eventually, which is good in the long run for players that return later in the patch, but this is essentially erasure (as opposed to protection) for the frustrations of the unluckiest players in the meantime. Dang.
IIRC, thereās actually a solid pre-9.2 community council thread that anticipated some of these caveats. Pity that it ended up flying below the radar with devs.
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Itās not too late, can we please have 2 charges for week 1 so ppl with 0 tier can have a chance to play optimally and experience a core system of this patch without having to wait 2 weeks in or 3 months like most of us. Gonna be 4 months into the patch that some of us got full tier bonus. Rng hasnāt been good to everyone and not everyone has the pleasure and gold to do funnel runs. RWF is long done, reward all your player base not just the top 5%. Iād be ok if the game was free to play with this but pay to play plus extreme time gating is just bad customer service imo.
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Oh yeah, this for sure. Itās actually pretty rare that folks catch on to this concept as the thing that would actually meet bad luck experiences prior to 9.2 in earnest. As the system stands currently, itās erasure of player pain, as opposed to reactive, unilateral protection for the unluckiest player experiences.
Disappointed but par for blizzard.
As a casual, fully 252 with 291/265 legendary, there is zero reason to waste the 1000 sandworn relics Iāve accumulated thus far on inferior gear.
Additional no weapons?
Fail, fail, fail, failā¦
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Well said. We pay for this let us have access to these things. Paying for time gate is just a pyramid scheme.
Please launch the creation catalyst with at least 2 charges, or remove the charge system altogether. I understand the idea of spreading out gear progression and not wanting burn players out, but it doesnāt feel great to be one of only two players in your raid group that doesnāt have at least their two set yet (some with four) especially when tier is a big feature of the patch. Being unlucky with tier is worse than being unlucky with other gear drops considering how impactful tier bonuses are.
All that said, the idea of the creation catalyst is an amazing addition to the game. Kudos to the wow team for being proactive about addressing future pain points for current players and alts/returning players. Things like this make me excited about future patches.
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what else you going to do with them? I donāt have that much but you lose a lot of stats dropping from 252 to 246 and I am not really in love with the feral bonus anyway - the 4set is okay but the 2 set would actually be a downgrade so you would have to wait until you had the entire set to useā¦
Respectfully, what else are you going to use them on? Like, serious question.
Also, for most specs, LFR tier (239) is better than mythic non-tier, if it makes the 4p. So having the choice to turn Relic Gear into Tier is great cause itās higher than LFR.
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People spent 2 months upgrading the cypher system and getting 252 gear.
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We should still be able to get 252 gear out of the creation catalyst from sandworn gear (like normal raid quality) IF we are up to 6/6 on our cypher research. We put in the time for it and going down to 246 to get tier FEELS TERRIBLE.
And before anyone tells me I should raid, I already do, on my main. My primary alt is 6/6 with tons of sandworn relics and I want to get the normal raid looks on all my alts. I just donāt want to commit to yet another raid night after what I already do.
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Just asking again
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Valid question, yep. Iām also genuinely curious.
Though, I also admit being confused about the purpose of cypher equipment/advancement and the reasons for excluding it from the creation catalyst. Sandworn is currency simply collected from various world sources and quests. Cypher gear gradually increases as you pour a different currency into your cypher tree - and that currency is also collected from various world sources and quests.
Systems like Cypher (sort of like Korthian upgradable gear from 9.1, though that was egregiously lost as a system) seem like concepts that eventually become homeless in the larger landscape of gear over time. Maybe the intention was for folks to catch up in the tree on their alts and, for like a week, pop ilvl 252 gear before hitting Sepulcher. Maybe the intention was to have it upgradable in the CC eventually, but was scrapped at some point. Who knows? At times, this stuff seems like option density just for the sake of making the patch look more engaging than it actually is.
Start it out with at least two charges. Itās not really fair or acceptable many of us have 3 or more characters who have zero tier.
We deserve at minimum to get 2 piece bonus on Tuesday.
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it may be we can
I have a doubt, this new system means that if i want the mythic appearance of the Antrosā Entrusted Bascinet, dropped by Antros, i can use this system to get that version?, i know i wonĀ“t get the stats, but i want the appearance without doing mythic raid.