What do you think is the correct choice for the blood elves on the western, ruined half of their city? They probably now have the resources to rebuild it, but should they? Is it worth it? Considering 90% of them got wiped out in the scourge invasion, id imagine even the eastern half of the city, rebuilt as it is, is still sparsely populated.
The blood elves do not need space (yet) so rebuilding the ruins would be done mostly for political/vanity reasons. But leaving the city, and walls ruined, potentially leaves a weak spot in the overall cities walled defenses. So that has to be considered.
Rebuilding the western half of the city would be very expensive. If in game scope is accurate in this example, just the western half of the city is almost as big as Stormwind. And id assume Blood Elf Architecture isnt cheap. Do you think, in a realistic, governance point of view, western Silvermoon should be rebuilt any time soon, or pushed back to the distant future when the Blood Elf population becomes big enough to need that space?
Or perhaps thereâs the possibility that Rommath can use magic to throw it together like he did with the eastern half of the city, making it inexpensive, easy and quick. If thats the case, then they should go for it, no reason not to.
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I think they should definitely rebuild it, regardless of it being a tactical weakness I am pretty sure most Blood Elves are proud about Quelâthalas and they wouldnât want to see their beloved city ruined.
However the price might be really big, but they did rebuild the city with no previous extensive resources back when they took it away from the Scourge, so I donât know, maybe it is plausible?
It wasnât Rommath.
The Visual Guide states:
Lorâthemar Theron and Halduron Brightwing were approached by a contingent of magisters sent back to QuelâThalas on the order of Kaelâthas. Led by Rommath, the magi shared with their people the radical new teachings advocated by Kaelâthas (and by extension, Illidan Stormrage), leading to the weary blood elves becoming reinvigorated. Under Rommathâs command, the magisters quickly went about reclaiming and rebuilding much of Silvermoon City âalmost overnight,â their great magical powers making quick work of the Scourge.
I think this explains my previous point about the cost or how they did rebuild it, they got resources from Outland, more specifically Kaelâthas/Illidan.
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I dont think they got the resources to rebuild the city from Kael or outland, how would the logistics of that even work? Rommath and his followers did rebuild the city using the magic Kael and Illidan taught them though, probably using local materials though.
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You just donât create materials out of thin air, otherwise we would have seen previous examples of it.
I also doubt that Kaelâthas simply sent a group of Magisters, he also had to make sure to show he was working towards a better future and still keep his peopleâs trust. Sending resources and materials would be the perfect way, not to mention they already had taken the Black Temple from the Demons.
It also says ââTheir great magical powers making quick work of the Scourgeââ not ââTheir magic rebuilding the cityââ of course they used magic, but I doubt they made big spires out of thin air overnight, they probably used the resources I speculated about and built them themslves with levitation/stronk Belf magic.
Oh I know, think about it this way, they probably did it the same way Suramar did but on a greater scale.
You can see resources being brought to the city and people using magic to clean the city out of debris and magical taint.
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No you dont create materials out of thin air, but id imagine they can just get the stone and lumber they need from the surrounding areaâŚlike the original builders of the city did. Hauling them from all the way in outland is absurd, especially in quantities to rebuild a city.
That would be like hauling stone to earth from mars to build something, there is stone here. We also have to assume they rebuilt the city almost solely with magic, it cant be done manually âalmost overnightâ.
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Maybe they can have a âdual-cityâ with the Western half rebuilt and populated by the Forsaken.
Sort of like how the Gnomes shared the Home of the Dwarves
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I think that itâs been long enough now, especially with the Sunwell cleansed and the and the BEs having recently gained golden eyes, that the other half of Silvermoon can be reclaimed (with all of the wretched having already been purged).
Iâd love it if they gave Silvermoon the Suramar treatment, and showed it as a living city (showing a Nightborne presence as well). Also, given the proximity, it would make sense to see an refugee camp for the Forsaken.
That said, I would rather they later reclaim Stratholme (or ateast Deatholme) as a new capital for the Forsaken, rather than make Silvermoon a permanent thing.
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None,
Let Silvermoon rot,
Besides,
Theyâre a dying race lol
Well, Lorthemar does say:
âThe rebuilding continues.â
For what ever his word is worth these daysâŚ
I actually would not mind that. I thought the Undead could make a home nearer to the Ghostlands, but a dual city would work.
It could show a bond between the true people of Lordaeron and the Sindorei survivors, both of which were victims of the Scourge. It could also show unity between them.
Lorthemar might see this as a defensive boon as well. With their God Queen abandoning them and their homeland lost, the Forsaken need something to believe in and to follow and to trust and to fight for - why not make the Blood Elven homeland their new shared cause?
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Thatâs rough lol.
While they are members of the Horde I canât abide with another elven race suffering.
As to the OPâs question, I think they should rebuild it. Clear out whatâs left if the scourge and rebuild. It wonât be deserted forever. With their alliance with the Shaldorei I could see some of them wanting to move to Silvermoon. It would be a change from seeing Suramar for the last 10k years and eventually some new breed of elf from Nightborne and Blood Elf parentage.
I wonder what that would look like? Probably closer to Night Night Elves maybe? 
Too bad the Kaldorei canât have a relationship with the Nightborne. Thanks Liadrin for making an uneasy situation worse. I donât see anything close to this with this NEâs and VEâs.
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Honestly considering both Silvermoon and the Exodar have been both half ruined and stuck in a temporal limbo for like 13 years. It seems like you could kill two birds with one stone here.
Update QuelâThalas and Azuremyst, attach them to Azeroth proper instead of letting them float in Outland. The massive reconstruction efforts aided by Forsaken and Kaldorei allies respectively could also explain away the layout changes that would probably be necessary to allow for flight.
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The answer is yes we should rebuild it, as for who lives the their the answer would be obvious that we make the ruined quarter the international district, where other Horde races congregate. Iâd say it would mostly be populated by Shalâdorei and Quelâdorei forsaken, but still have alcoves of the other races.
Shaldorei I could see easily wanting room to stretch their legs after being cooped up for 10ks and Silvermoon would be the safe choice for their first new population center.
Quelâdorei Forsaken its time they were represented in game by more than Dark Rangers and the game needs more showing how the Forsaken and Blood Elves have a functional relationship.
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Clearly the best thing to do would be to migrate the remaining population of QuelâThalas north to live around the Sunwell and then let the Amani move in to Eversong as a pact through the Zandalari to get them to join the Horde in full.
That or plop down a town-in-a-box on the broken half and turn it into a second major goblin hub. Forsaken can join in too. QuelâThalas becomes a refugee city for all the Horde races that have lost their homes over the years.
It would be interesting to see what joint goblin/Forsaken/Blood Elf architecture ends up looking like.
Tbh I think you could just expand on what the Goblins already have in Azshara. A lot of it is actually really, really cool. I just never noticed as since I cut my teeth in Vanilla I had to unlearn my instinctual aversion to that region as it was soul sucking levels of empty and boring.
The Amani can honestly just go to hell at this point. Look how far the Darkspear came after joining the Horde. Presumably they still operate holdings in Zangarmarsh meaning theyâve technically achieved interplanetary colonization. And remaining hostile after the Zandalari joined is just suicidal. Weâve perfectly good Revantusks on stand by if we need a Forest Troll allied race or skin.
True. I also avoid that place like the plague even though I consciously know it is a lot better now. As far as that zone goes Iâd just like them to find a way to deal with their rampant pollution of the river that runs by Orgrimmar. Goblins may be caricatures of cartoonish over industrialization but they DO have shamans. Youâd think they would want to keep the rivers clean if it meant keeping up good relations with the elements and NOT poisoning their southern allies.
As for the Amani, what can I say? Iâve always been very sympathetic to them and their fight. Especially since Blizzard does their very best job to try and paint the colonizers as morally righteous for their mass slaughter of the indigenous peoples. The message always rubbed me the wrong way.
And the Shatterspear. Which I donât think really should of joined the Horde. All they wanted was to be left alone and Dance. (Blizzard really needs to write some lore for them)
Shatterspear are jungle trolls, not forest.
I do miss their dancing though. I used to fly over them in Vanilla when going between Moonglade and my capital and wish I could go down there and dance with them.
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Thatâs a fair point. Blizz has always had a tone problem and the Trolls in particular can be all sorts of uncomfortable. Blizz tries to have itâs cake and eat it too with the fantasy genre which is where weâve problems like this. The traditionally chaotic evil races which in like D&D are violent monsters to a man get to be nuanced people just as capable of good and evil as anyone else. But ya know having violent monsters makes for an easy dungeon and so some of them are just like that for no logical reason.
The Amani are out there with the Defias. People with nothing but legitimate grievances made unsympathetic by being relentless pricks about everything well past the point of reason.
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A big issue is that when the lore was first written the Amani, like the Horde at the time, were not meant to be all that sympathetic. They were designed to be always Chaotic Evil monsters that are trying to conquer the world.
But then WC3 happened and orcs were given massive character development. Suddenly the story was no longer good vs evil, it was a complicated war between peoples who all have their own motivations and needs that must be met. Suddenly Thrall and company were given pathos, turning their story into one of bitter failure and hopes for redemption for their brutal past.
But that is the issue with giving your former villains pathos. Your heroes stop looking quite so heroic when it is thinking, living people they are butchering.
There are two things Blizzard couldâve done with this. Lean into it and embrace the moral ambiguity of the struggle between the high elves and the amani. Create both heroes and villains on both side of the conflict and maybe write a story where some sort of agreement can be reached down the road.
⌠Or they could viciously scrub away all moral ambiguity by making the Amani seem as unreasonable as possible and painting the elves as if they absolutely had to colonize right on top this immensely powerful leyline section that the trolls werenât even using anyway! How stupid could they be?! Clearly it is up to us, the white pointy eared colonists to use this land correctly!
And that is how you get a story that is a deeply uncomfortable parallel to old colonial propaganda.
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