I get it, you want the rep, the achievement, the title.
However, grinding the mobs and stopping quest progression for dozens of others is annoying as all can be.
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Complain in your own realm’s forum. Most people here won’t be on your realm, and possibly not faction either.
I always try to farm away from questing spots. If someone comes along where I am farming, I tend to find something else to do.
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I took it as a general “don’t be a butthead and ruin lower level quest areas with your rep grind” kind of post rather than a realm or faction specific thing.
Also op I agree. No reason folks can’t use common courtesy when in questing areas and they notice others around that are zone appropriate level.
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Competition is always good. Keeps the world alive
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Don’t worry, he only posts to Drain the joy out of everyone.
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usually if you shoot the guy a whisper they’ll inv you so you can get credit. That’s what I did when I was leveling my alt
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As there is an achievement and a title attached to it, I wish you the best of luck in trying to label it as “griefing”.
Working as intended.
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Competition for mobs is always a thing. Quest givers are no exception
Each quest giver in BB has a fast respawn time, but if it bothers you, please ask the person grinding to give you a moment when a specific npc respawns.
Killing those NPC is the main way to gain Bloodsail Rep, and the best grinds are always prefered especially when grinding the Insane title.
Youll be okay though, i promise!
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its world of WAR craft, attacking citites is part of the game.
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Wrong war lol
As someone who did the bloodsail rep grind 3 times (once for the character I planned on maining, once on the one I did end up getting insane on, and a third time for some friends), deal with it.
I’ve had people spam whisper me slurs and for me to take my own life because they had to wait a few minutes for a respawn timer. This was at 3 am btw. We chose that time because we didn’t expect people to be on, but they were. To you, the one person waiting on the mob to spawn, it’s just your one quest, but you’re not the only person questing. I did a small test to see, mid grind, how many people needed the npcs in the inn, and if I was to wait for every person to run in and do their thing, I’d almost never get the kills in the inn for the rep. It’s already a 3 hour mind numbing grind, but to add every person questing throws that grind time up hard.
Sucks to suck, you can go quest elsewhere. We can only get that rep there.
Edit: the inn is also the safest area to do the grind, you can’t be knocked into the water or off the bridge bits and get perma sniped and knocked back. Doing the grind outside the inn can drastically increase the time it takes to finish. Blame blizz for making this.
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That I mostly agree with.
It’s poorly designed on a number of points in a way to create player conflict, and not in the usual way both because most servers are lopsided so it tends to be same-faction conflict that isn’t PVP-able, plus a lvl 40 is at a bit of a 1-1 disadvantage vs. an 80. If they had added more guards, and tweaked the knockback, less incentive to kill quest givers. Make certain NPCs immune, etc.
That said, I don’t recall ever running into it back in the original run of Wrath and I leveled a toooon of alts on multiple servers. I’ve now run into it multiple times leveling way fewer alts. It’s not the only thing diminishing my enthusiasm for leveling alts, but the prevalence of 80s in vanilla zones in Classic is usually a headache rather than a benefit imo, and Insane farmers is definitely one of the worst.
Just off the cuff (so possibly wrong) I tend to think the higher perceived frequency is probably two things: 1) a slightly different playerbase more acclimatized to doing achievements than people were in 2008, so more people pursuing this achievement than back when and 2) larger average server populations.
Just my perception.
man people are so soft in 2023, Blizzard originally was going to design the game around world pvp and attacks on cities…the franchise came from a RTS pvp game…cry more play retail where the game is some pve sim.
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Must be all the soy.
Insane was and still is a hidden feat of strength. The knowledge of Insane really didn’t become relevant until atleast ICC, and didn’t become wide spread until Cata when Blizzard outright said it existed and were nerfing it due to Shendralar being removed as a reputation from the game.
LK had drastically more players than LKC does, and the only real reason why more are doing it now than in 09 is because of this knowledge of it’s existence, imo.
I don’t agree, it’s two major games behind the current, in a non end game vanilla city. Insane exists as these reps exist but lack any real tangible reward. Most reps give profession plans, items, consumables, etc. The Insane reps give nothing outside of a pirate hat.
I will agree that it’s badly designed but it wasn’t meant to be a good design. It’s a rep grind for individually worthless reps. The title of the achievement even alludes to this, as one “has to be insane to grind these”.
It’s just unfortunate for anyone doing BB quests, as Bloodsail only gives rep when any BB member is killed, and those quest givers not only give a lot of rep, for basically nothing in comparison to the guards, but also keeps summoning guards. This sounds like a good thing to have, but if you’re doing it solo, you’ll run out of resources eventually. You need the quest givers dead so you can eat and drink, which is faster than running back to your corpse.
I get the hate aimed at those doing the achievement, but in reality, it truly is a sucks to suck moment. Go to a different zone for exp, there is more than just BB.
Except that’s exactly what you have to do to get rep. Outside of about 7 guards, all other guards are located around or near major quest / profession npcs or vendors, and even better yet, each of those npcs spawns 1-2 guards upon aggro and the npcs themselves give 5 rep per kill. It’s a poorly designed feature from 2004, yes, but it is what it is.
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Not sure loathing Badlands is a skill issue, but ok 
Not sure how you got that from what I said, but sure.
I get that and I appreciate people that try to be accommodating when and where they can.
Some things just suck and best we can do in those cases is just try to go through them without also being burning heaps of garbage to each other while we are doing it.
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