The best way to compare raid DPS

I see a lot of people talking about raid DPS when trying to comparing different classes and often to try and prove a point they’ll point to the absolute max parses

This is wrong for several reasons

  1. Crit luck. You could get lucky and have 40% sheet crit but get 70% crits during the fight

  2. Raids catering to a top parse for a certain character. This could be not making a mage/spriest decurse/dispel and giving them multiple PIs each fight. Mages having another mage run winter’s chill. Having another rogue run IEA for you. Waiting the full 6 minutes between each fight for a warrior to have all their cds including reck/diamond flask up for each fight. Etc. These are things that don’t necessarily happen when a raid is wanting to have the best possible raid outcome but catering to individual parses

  3. Funneling all the gear to one person in a raid which can skew their max DPS especially earlier in a phase. If a warrior has full t1 and best weapons week 2 or 3 for example when on average that’s not the case for others

You also don’t want to look at the lower % parses because you’ll have people not playing optimally

The best way to compare raid DPS is to look at the 95th % over the past week. That’s going to give you the most accurate representation of people playing well/optimally but not catering to individuals necessarily. Anything else, if you try to use that in your argument, should be immediately disregarded

PI doesn’t effect parses that damage goes to the priest who casts it,and before that if you had more than 1 PI your parse got invalidated. but you’re absolutely right on your other points.

Oh really, that’s great to hear thank you for the correction! I know in classic it definitely helped the caster’s parse lol

Parsing in sod/era is odd because on 1 hand it’s the only thing to do and people want to be competitive.

It’s not like you’re fighting bosses with 5% clear rates, the bosses are like 100% clear rates so you can’t really be competitive with the bosses you kill and must rely on the number you got on the boss.

I mean parsing on anything other than Mythis Plus in retail is probably cringe but we are all boomers here

Mythic+ is just dungeons no one cares about those parses.

Even mythic raid parsing doesn’t really get talked about because like 2-5% of the player base gets cutting edge.

Or whatever u know what I mean we boomers here playing classic we ain’t power gamers we wanna be compared to other boomers

80th percentile is the actual best percentile to look at.

Gear is the only measurement.

Y’all stand still and fight target dummies.

Nah sitll gonna have plenty of people held back by bad group/raid comps, not using best tactics, maybe not geared enough etc

Yeah, seeing how people do when it’s not a perfectly oiled machine dedicated to getting the highest # possible while still having the skill to hit high numbers is exactly why it’s the perfect spot to analyse class power.

Agree to disagree