Most of my reason for playing this game revolves around social connections. Running M+ with my guild, or teasing the guild leader about his alt’s terrible dps despite being only 320 ilvl. Having fun and funny inside jokes we keep adding more and more layers to. Other players are the delight of the multiplayer experience.
Most of my reason for hating this game revolve around antisocial interactions. Players sending me a litany of whispers explaining to me that the game as a whole would be better if I uninstalled and deleted my characters. Players literally telling me I should kill myself in real life because of how trash I am at the game. Players tell me or my friends we are “other” or “less than” or simply not human for having different opinions.
Am I the only person who feels this way? That other players are both the best and worst part of WoW and other online games?
Yeah I really like the guild I am in now, but sometimes I play at weird hours and no guildies are online. Trust me I much prefer to group with guildmates versus pugs. Its getting to teh point I feel I might just opt out of content instead of attempt to pug if that becomes the options.
For example, we’re a west coast guild that caters to professionals who work long hours and people who have young kids. People don’t even start logging on until after 9 and are usually around until 1 or 2 in the morning.
I would never join a guild where people play earlier, since I would never even see them.
I appreciate you’re trying to troubleshoot my situation friend but I wasn’t looking for a solution, I was just expressing an opinion. My current guild and situation are great.
I am moreso just talking about the general atmosphere of online games as a whole and in general in my experience, over the last 20+ years.
I’m currently debating whether or not to buy Diablo IV. I always loved the Diablo Universe, but after playing WoW from the beginning, I’m not really too enthusiastic about entering another game filled with the Blizzard fanbase.
That and the fat Druids, that is.
WTB a toy that makes all other players names appear to be either Nelson Muntz or Draco Malfoy, I would click it whenever I encounter toxicity and laugh.
Knowing Blizz it would prolly have a 1 hour CD and that would be too long.
Other players is not a problem in games you are not required to team up with them to have fun with the game.
There is a very big difference between wanting to play in a game world with other people, and wanting to do group activities with those people.
Also a further bigger difference to wanting to do the activity with specific people.
GW2 has a nice solution for that WoW will never, because they only copy half of the things.
When you go to an event, no matter how much someone contribute, it is a contribution, and awards “something” to the extent of the participation in time, not in effectiveness, and it accepts the map limit of players in that activity. You dont really need to interact with the people to do the activity.
If you WANT to do fractals or raids, you can, but you dont need it unless you want to do it for doing it.
The problem in wow is not the other players, it is the fact that they force you into playing with other people in a close and personal manner even if you dont want to.
But your complaint comes down to “If I want to do multi-player activities, I have to do them with other players.” Which is such a nonsensical thing to say, I can’t even come up with the words to describe it.
“I have to eat pizza if I want to enjoy eating pizza, and that’s just WRONG!” - Equivalent statement
If there was a BOT version of playing WOW and PVP with just purely other bots.
That would be insanely cool.
Only downside I would have to upgrade to an i9 and have over 64 gigs of ram so
running those bots would not be an issue. Bots work fine in BF2
Then WOW could be played offline and we would never be locked out of raids and raid 24/7 if we wanted.
We could then use an addon that lets us customize the bots at any time of any faction or or a setting for keeping it as real to WOW as possible.
Its always the community , it can be great and it can be poor. But you also got to know that a person would recollect 1 negative over a 100 positive experiences . So your sample size needs to be huge .Any gaming company should always have systems that encourage a positive environment.
In total honesty though, I have rarely experienced those kinds of interactions… and I PuG M+ pretty often. The vast majority of my M+ progress has been pugged with only 15+ keys being done in community exclusively (and even then I’ve pugged some of those).
The vast majority of interactions have been positive or totally neutral. I can count on my hands the number of times since DF launched that someone started just insulting another player in group. Most of the time it either gets ignored entirely and we proceed, or the bully leaves, or the victim leaves. I prefer when the bully leaves and they’re a dps, and we just 4 man the dungeon. So satisfying knowing we didn’t even need that person; they are irrelevant (like all bullies are).
Stick to your community and guild runs seems to be the general rule around here lol.
I think maybe something like this has happened to me once in the years I have been playing, and the player who said it was clearly clueless, had zero idea about what was happening around them. This seems odd.
How often do other people see these things happening?
I’ve never encountered toxicity like you described. Actually, the majority of all my interactions with other players are pleasant. The rudest thing I usually see is someone posting ??? after a mistake is made or something. I always wonder what the real context is for people who claim the community is toxic.
