The amount of cc a shaman can have is redicolous

Earthgrasp totem
Double Cap totem
Lasso
Thunderstorm
Spiritwalkers grace into hex
Unleash shield = Knockback + Root
Sundering
Warstomp

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i think the only real issue here is that the DRs seem to be fumbled

unleash knock+root doesn’t DR thunderstorm or root totem which is kinda weird

i could see that being pretty oppressive tbh

this isn’t really considering static field either which obviously wouldn’t DR with any of the knocks/roots regardless and it’ll be hard to take BOTH unleash+static with 3 slots

i think this has potential with ww/mw
incap cap is iconic
incap cap cap is basically incap/hoj with massive range

i still think it’s gonna be hard to justify the talent point there let alone ANYwhere else

LMAO

LMFAOOO okay relax

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My guy listed 2 roots, cap totem that’s killable and delayed and won’t be taken for better talents, lasso a channeled/kickable stun, hex a cleansable by dps poly on a cd, sundering a what 2 sec incap in a small line? And a racial. So you want an enh shaman to run cap stun AND the reset talent for it that dumps a second one, than still chain down the tree for lasso and also on the way pick up spiritwalkers, AND in the character select screen pick Tauren? How bad of a build you tryna make here? Or is this a “trick enough shaman players into thinking this is good and they might all do it and be scuffed” thread.

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Redicolous

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unleash is weird cuz sham has such great pvp talents it’s hard to make room for it, and it costs basically 2 globals. It’s rly good but not a lot of people run it

if you meant past tense it was def hard to justify outside of blades edge scenarios forsure

but with double shield talent getting the knock + the root will easily make it situationally better than static field i think so it’ll be useable forsure

https://streamable.com/4vxco9

demonstration

you really don’t lose basically anything to have access to thunderstorm+root+unleash

a LOT of specs are getting access to a LOT of tools though so i’m not sure if unleash should DR but it’s something to watch

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didn’t it purge ur shield off when u used it in slands?

thats pretty good that ur works with both shields at once now, and doesnt require reapplying shields

dude has 3 posts and ppl are taking him seriously

smh my head

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nah

yeah the both shields value was a recent fix on the ptr and it never required you to reapply after use

lightning shield also won’t be purgable in DF (last i checked)
which is a really bad change for purge protection
but a pretty big buff to unleash shield (situationally ofc)

yah knock+root in one global is pretty legendary

Nothing yet compares to mage and warlock

yo remi
what build are u rockin rn

https://i2.paste.pics/02abdc25a95bfbe9d9201d101fcf3392.png
thats what im doin rn
not having asc/dre kinda sucks tho

On release the talent did expunge the current shield and also had less range/1s less on root

It’s come a long way and is my fav talent with orbit

I don’t want it to DR because I’m heavily biased and shaman just lacks hard cc without any caveats

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Looking at what’s so far perceived as S tier comps, a lot of double melee, so I think static field will still be king in that it stops everyone inside instead of just one person. I can see a good use case for this in 2s or maybe vs melee/caster, but static field also helps you lock people down and prevent runners, it’s not just escape. Ele/resto will probably see more use of this than enh.

warstomp shammy exclusive now? nice

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not playing prepatch BUT
100% anticipating they bring down eleblast damage (really hope they cap overflowing maelstrom at 150% in pvp it’s so bad for the game)

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1013482064571551744/1034972023396507648/unknown.png

there’s def room to drop ascendance proc for primwave or overflowing though
or even elemental spirits if eleblast stays doing disgusting dumb damage

nice nice

not having swirling or refreshing is a REAL bold move
very alpha brother

yeah forsure

there will be niche scenarios though where reverse deathgrip+rooting someone for positional advantage or having basically an unholy dk petkick on a 30 second cd that also displaces them
or even knocking every fof will have a ton of value

but likely not enough to compete with static both denying a monks port offensively or denying images+xuen defensively like static field can every single go
or other parallels

Knocks DR 100% after the first I think. You can’t knock someone twice. So Unleash shield not DRing w/thunderstorm means you can use them both on same target.

The root is only 4 seconds so I think it doesn’t share DR because of that.

are you explaining knock DRs to me or are you telling me they fixed unleash DR in the last 2 weeks?

https://streamable.com/4vxco9

Just explaining why I think unleash shield doesn’t DR with other stuff.

Because the knock DR would negate thunderstorm and the root is short.

that’s the issue though

the thunderstorm isn’t being negated the way it is if something is on vortex(knock) or rop(knock) dr

ww disable DRs though