The alliance is an evil dictatorship

I think there is a big misconception by alliance players (who are given everything story wise) that the Horde are one dimensionally evil, especially from
Night elf players who are so short sighted and misguided that even anduin is coming around to seeing it.

Crug, orc warrior of the Horde and chieftan of the Crug Clan was born in durnhold keep. Which was ran by the alliance. Not many good guys run internment camps. My parents were KILLED by alliance slave masters! I was raised in an orphanage because of you!

Have the horde had leaders that were evil, yes! Multiple in-fact, but there has always been Good within the Horde to overcome it.

Now with the Horde being led by a Council I argue that we are actually more democratic and free than the alliance monarch I mean dictatorship!!!

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Anduin couldn’t dictate a bowl of jello

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I voted for VanCleef.

DEATH TO MONARCHS!

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You couldn’t even wait 1 day until the next troll post?

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His Horde has a spine less firm than jello. Jello may not listen to Anduin, but his Horde pets give him a soap box to lecture them.

I would love to see a podium in the center of Orgrimmar called " the High King’s Soap Box". We have some Wrynn High King lecturing us every other expac or so.

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tHiS IsN’t tHe rP fORuM

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I missed orc male warrior threads.

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:roll_eyes: oh for goodness sake! You again?!?!

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Let some Stormwind noble house drum up a bunch of anti-Horde rhetoric and get the people raging in the streets over it, maybe some collusion with a few like minded leaders, and some ideas that said noble would be a better choice to rule than House Wrynn.

Launch Coup de’tat. Send Anduin into exile. Alliance players spend an expac under new king and launch a war against the Horde. Commit a few attrocities.

Lo and behold there’s something new and exciting. A faction war that’s the Alliance’s fault and not the Horde’s.

I can already feel the brains at Blizzard HQ exploding from such a concept.

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Is this the Horde-equivalent to male human paladin threads?

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Running Old Hillsbrad Foothills again, I noticed that it showed that the people who ran Durnhold Keep lived over in Tarren Mill. And the people of Tarren Mill are now Forsaken. Who are allied with the Orcs.

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Crug, please stop trolling. This forum is hostile enough as it is.

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Grass is always greener right

Didn’t anyone tell you to stay away from the voodoo?

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You really don’t understand how Monarchies work, do you?

In THEORY the Alliance is like NATO, an alliance of nations bound in a pact of mutual defense (and likely trade agreements). Stormwind is rather an 800 pound gorilla much like the USA is in relation to NATO and has a disproportional amount of influence.

“High King of the Alliance” is a rather bad title for the role Anduin is supposed to have: He is more like the secretary general of NATO in that he coordinates the other member races and acts as spokesperson. Anduin does control the Alliance’s troops but not that of its member states; there is some suggestion he might soon be giving that role to someone else who is actually a veteran tactician, greatly reducing his effective power.

Tyrande proved quite bluntly the limits of Anduins power when she told him to take a walk and withdrew most Kaldorei support from the Forth war to focus on retaking her homeland, and Anduin had no recourse to force her to obey. That Genn (apologetically) did the same with Gilneas forces just reinforces that.

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This troll post has a point… The Alliance is a tool of human imperialism. Non-humans are essentially slaves to prioritize human interests. As the High King position is subject to human rules of monarchal succession.

We see this first hand in BfA, after the nelves lose their home, the Alliance prioritized Arathi, Lordaeron, and Kul Tiras… what do all three of those have in common?

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They all have the letter “a” in their name!

“A”, like "A"nduin!

One moment, let me get my tinfoil hat. We need to go deeper.

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There commonality is they were all essential to keeping the Alliance safe. Lordaeron because it was where Sylvanas was(and had she been captured/kill the war would have ended then and there).

Arathi because it is literally the backdoor to Ironforge and Stormwind, if you lost it the Horde could finally invade the heartlands of the Alliance(and considering aside from the draenei everyone was on the Eastern Kingdoms would have been bad news).

Kul Tiras because without naval superiority Sylvanas could sail right down to Stormwind(which happens to hold the night elven refugees!).

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I do not believe that and here is why.

Not necessarily true, there are other who would have picked up her mantle. Much of the Horde believed that War meant the future of the Horde, remembering Varians words “We will end you” from MoP.

I do not think Sylvanas is the head of the Snake… Rather the head of the Hydra.

Furthermore, the Horde consolidated power in Lordaeron, because they expected retaliation there. Meaning, Ogrimmar and Thunderbluff were far more vulnerable given the allocation of forced to Lordaeron. Tactically, Kalimdor would have been a more powerful tactic for the Alliance.

Pfft, no it’s not. It leads right into Khaz’modan… A Marshland seated in front of a Mountain Range, fortified with Dwarven Bunkers. Good luck with that.

She didn’t have a navy to do so. That is why the Zandalari were so important.

There are all the excuses Blizzard fed us, and I call BS.