Least half of them did split off with the Horde when Magatha tried to take Thunder Bluff.
Afterwards, think some conspired with the Alliance in Stonetalon.
The only expansions that remotely touched on the faction war was Cata, Mists, and BfA. In Cata, the main villain was a dragon. In Mists, we banded together against Garrosh. In BfA, Blizzard brought in the old gods as the last villain. In Dragonflight, we are friends!
The faction war has been mostly reduced to PvP.
Even before that you have stories where like in Ashenvale Horde is trying to take over Night Elf territory. It’s not an all out war like 1-4 but it’s still a conflict itself.
Honestly while I’m a pretty long-time night elf fan and I’ve hated the story they’ve been given since BfA (in part even since Legion), Moonglade/Nighthaven was the kaldorei capital before WoW, and it became neutral despite being very much night elf territory. Val’sharah is also neutral.
I wish the tree was in Kalimdor and Alliance only but at this point I’m just glad the book is closing and maybe kaldorei can finally stop getting the very… fun attention they’ve had for the last few expansions. I’m looking forward to the next few expansions that will likely dive into other race’s stuff, and help repair their themes as well. Orcs need some love and Dwarves have just been kind of sitting there for a long time.
It also removes the issue of a faction war breaking out, because Blizzard tends to like the Horde winning (while writing them as villains) and the current spread of territories makes that extremely difficult.
I still swear they did N’zoth dirty. Him breaking free from his prison and unleashing an invasion on Azeroth was a perfect backdrop for an expansion…and instead they reduced him to an end of patch boss.
N’Zoth should have won.
Pre-cata, Horde was having logging operations in Ashenvale. It didn’t try to “take” NE territory.
That’s correct, but shortly thereafter, they betrayed the Alliance. Accordingly, the groups we are aware of, are hostile towards the Alliance, especially with the Night Elves.
We absolutely were taking over their territory. That’s how they came up with the idea for the new PVP area in SoD.
I honestly think it would have been a better expansion if Shadowlands showed signs that things werent really liked they seem and the big reveal was that the Jailer was actually a manifestation of N’zoths mind control and we did a bunch of heinous stuff while his champion.
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The Horde logging operations weren’t allowed, and at the time, pre-Cata, the kaldorei were actually giving lumber to the Horde along with that.
The Orcs just… wanted more, and took it, because they apparently eat timber. This is the entire premise for Warsong Gulch.
They need that daily fiber.
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We gotta get our daily fiber intake somehow.
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Oh, how I wish everything from BFA onwards were just a big, bad dream. xD
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My headcanon is that because they’re descended from Breakers they just really, really hate trees, subconsciously.
Canonically, there was a Warsong logging camp in Ashenvale for logging. Garrosh was the one who wanted to build a Horde city there.
We still were not really welcome there. And that’s why we have quests to kill Night Elves.
That Warsong camp wasn’t allowed, it was a strike into night elf territory, hence the battleground.
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Orcs have had plenty of love for a lifetime; they had lots of attention in MoP and WoD and have great heritage armor and they didn’t even have to do a raid to get more than one color for it. Their heritage armor questline was actually pretty well done also (unlike the night elf one)
When TWW comes out, there will be more races using the dwarf model than any other model; if anything there’s too many dwarves. Really the only reason to play a dwarf (besides racials) is if you want to make your character ugly on purpose, which means that the WoD model update actually made them worse by getting rid of all the funny female dwarf faces
Letting horde into the new Night Elf city is actually the perfect fireproofing strategy, since all the tears being shed will instantly put any new fire out.
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