As if the Horde didn’t visit Teldrassil for a wood fired pizza 
Who doesn’t like wood fired pizza? 
Don’t tell anyone we abduct Male Blood Elves for ladies night 
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Here it is, the forums wrongest statement ever.
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You are literally playing the race that is the single biggest victim of the faction system.
Once a might of their own reduced to a mere punching bag.
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Growing and evolving means getting better, not the other way around. Factions have always been one of the key themes of Warcraft. Getting rid of factions, making everything neutral, making all classes available on every race will turn a once great game into a structureless mess. This is the opposite of evolving. There are some changes that should not be made, that includes getting rid of factions and making capital cities neutral.
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The endlessly repeating faction war is definitely not what would make the story great.
Peace, joy, and sunshine are certainly not what would make the story great either.
Unfortunately, the writers of WoW have shown in both cases that they cannot portray it well, whether they stick to the “BuT mUh fACtiOn prIDe” track or desperately try to forget genocides and everything else through a good hug and tea parties.
Personally, I wish that the factions would still exist, but each race could freely choose which side to join. It’s a thousand times more natural than pretending that every race suffers from a hivemind mentality. Race should not be the decisive factor for loyalty, but rather the values that each group represents.
It would not only mean more freedom for players who could finally play what they want, instead of being forced to be in a faction they don’t like just because racial division in WoW is still maintained. It would also offer a lot of potential for new storylines. Internal political unrest and possible uprisings. Smaller conflicts between groups.
The entire Horde against the entire Alliance has never worked because both factions are playable, and it automatically leaves players dissatisfied.
So… Never played dnd or just really poor dms?
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If I could post gifs I’d post that Rita Repulsa “Yes, cry! Cry harder, baby!” gif
Yeah. BFA and Allied Races should have been the expansion that broke the race barrier for factions by giving each of the faction a racial branch of the other.
Shen’Dalar Night Elves, Leper Gnomes, Dark Iron for Horde.
Grimtotem, Some Goblin Cartel, High Elves for Alliance.
BFA could even easily have added Kul’Tirans for Horde since that is literally the first race horde recruits in Tirisgarde, albeit it being a pirate faction.
He definitely never played if he thinks DnD has “No identity, no lore, no structure.”
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Did Asmongold release something about this recently? A whole lot these threads popping up and it just feels like sad parrots.
The Alliance is at odds with the Grimtotem. Moreover, a group of them has joined the Horde. It wouldn’t really make sense.
Highmountain Tauren, on the other hand, would have been the obvious choice. Or, as I mentioned, I’m in favor of it affecting all races. I’m not really a fan of the copy & paste concept in this game, so it wouldn’t have needed reskins/recolors in the first place. The respective Alliance/Horde version of a race could simply be renamed accordingly.
The faction war doesn’t have to repeat for factions to exist. Or faction cities to exist. Chosen faction is the first part of choosing our characters.
They don’t portray peace well either.
Ideally people should get a choice of Horde, Alliance or Neutral. But since that splits things three ways, neutral will probably just be within the cross-faction setting.
Because the Alliance wins every time.
Factions should stay as they are. This makes them distinct from each other. Each faction has specific races with unique cultures and common values that banded them together. This doesn’t mean that everyone has a “hive mind”, evidence by how everyone handled Garrosh and Sylvanas. Make factions interchangeable and you pretty much destroyed the entire lore of the game.
This has nothing to do with the fact that we have two factions but with the fact that Blizzard consistently wrote the Horde as the bad guys with two Warchiefs turning into villains.
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No. He has not. This is because of the Amirdrassil stuff.
You mean like 20 years ago?..
Looks at Warcraft 3
However, this is never shown in the game. Just take a look at how many zones of the Alliance have been destroyed, and unfortunately, they never get an update (Gilneas is the first one in what? 15 years?). Accordingly, you can’t even rejoice over a sentence during Blizzcon like, “Oh, before I forget, the Alliance won.”
In BfA alone, there were exclusively Alliance zones that turned into never-ending warfronts. I hardly believe that anyone was happy about that.
As an Alliance player I did not care, just like I don’t care that Horde can go to the new night elf place
lol @ anyone who is getting upset about this
That’s nice for you. However, I wanted to illustrate that the statement “but the Alliance always wins” carries zero weight if it’s not reflected in the game.
A lot of things aren’t shown in game. Large swaths of lore are either in interviews or books.
Silvermoon came into the game destroyed and won’t be repaired for another few years at least. The writers had Sylvanas destroy UC and unlike Amirdrassil, we haven’t gotten another version. Our original flight point doesn’t even work there and hasn’t since BFA.
People don’t seem to be happy that they signed up for a war game with divided factions and that it exists in this very game. It’s very curious and needs to be studied.
If it’s a war game then why isn’t PvP the main focus?
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