Tempest still feels bad as Elemental

I believe there is still a lot of work to be done with elemental to reach their stated goals and vision for the spec they announced during the beta, but overall I am content with elemental at the moment. Although it is I feel a little too simple.

My biggest gripe though is Tempest does not feel good in the current state. It completely disrupts the flow of combat when it procs.
This could be alleviated if they changed it to where Tempest had the same interactions as Lightning Bolt but ideally I feel Tempest should just be replacing a separate button.

It is most noticeable when you go to use Stormkeeper charges after Earth Shocking to take advantage of the Surge of Power talent. I am expecting a series of instant casts and begin some movement and suddenly my character stops responding as my expected instant Lightning Bolts is now a Tempest which requires a cast time.

Using Natures Swiftness on Tempest can help this a little but may not always be available. But I can say instant Tempest does make the spell feel much better.

I also wish there were some visual for when Tempest was ready. I know Lightning Bolt’s button will light up and you will get a buff, but I would like if there were a graphic similar to Lava Surge which made it more apparent when a Tempest was ready.

It would also be neat and add just a little more flavor to the Hero Spec if there were maybe some aura which built around your player character as Awakening Storm charges built up or when Tempest was ready. Maybe electricity or lightning built up around you as you got more stacks or as Tempest was ready to be cast. Just something to visually make the Hero spec a little more appealing as right now there isnt much going on.

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There is an weakaura to add a visual indicator when you have tempest up, basically the same visual indicator from enhance shammy. Though I agree it should be there from the get go.

And my biggest gripe also is tempest being a cast and breaking the flow of insta-cast chain.

Either make it a separate button or make it insta-cast as well. Damn, maybe both would work well.

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Totally agree with this. Wanted to go Stormbringer as Ele in PVP, but too clunky to get Tempest charges while trying to do Stormkeeper->Earth Shocks and trying to be mobile.

I also think that rather than having Tempest be a different ability that replaces Lightning Bolt, it should straight up just be a buff to the natural Lightning Bolt ability to have the additional effects. This should keep it essentially the same as it is now, but, as you said, allow it to benefit from abilities that interact with Lightning Bolt (like Stormkeeper) and not ruin DPS flow.

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Agree to all of this …

Just giving us the same interactions would be great that way it’s consistent, and also having a visual would be great too … i also sort of wish that the tempest animation was a little more … “tempesty”. Right now it’s kind of misnamed cause it’s just a giant lightning bolt.

From the dictionary: >

Tempest

  1. A violent windstorm, frequently accompanied by rain, snow, or hail.

By that definiton, it should really be doing frost / wind / lightning damage… so elemental I suppose?

I’d also much rather that tempest be a free proc that replaces earth shock or something like that … it would feel a lot less disruptive … and since it would spent no maelstrom, it’d flow a little better maybe? Perhaps I’m being short sighted …

Honestly if it were just instant it would be so much smoother

Tempest really needs more oomph. Also id either have it replace lava burst or instead of only changing lightning bolt have it work like storm keeper where your next bolt OR chain lightning will be a tempest. That way you dont have to keep watching bolt when youre mowing down trash.

I agree with it needing a better indicator. I also think it should be insta cast. It pretty much is for enhance since you can use maelstrom charges.

All in all tempest just feels like it was built for enhancement over elemental to me.

That said elemental is a little too lava/fore focused in its base tree imo which may be why the hero tree is lackluster. Vs enhancement which has a very storm heavy tree.

Are Sims updated? seems like i lost 50k dps overnight as ele

Yea tempest kinda sucks for elemental.

Yeah … I mean it hits comparable to earth shock basically. But the real problem is that I often don’t really anticipate when it’s gonna happen.

Yea and when i use it on enhancement it feels like i just get it 10 times more often compared to elemental.

Tempest just don’t proc enough and there’s nothing affecting it. Always it’s not like you can really charge stocks of it on storm bringer. It needs to to be happening more often. Enhance have it proccing much more often.

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Tempest is so clunky. It was better when i had a talent to reduce the cast time of lightning bolt but when they removed that tempest became super slow to cast to the point they wanna pigeonhole you into Farseer now.

Again i will always say they hate shaman cause they half bake what they do for us and tempest only really working for enhance and being trash for ele shows how half baked it is.