Agreed with this. If Sylvanas was going to die it should be at the hands of Genn and Tyrande as they wring the life from her.
We all know she is going to get the Kerrigan treatment though.
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Tell me what’s is worse: losing countless hubs and cities while their leaders do nothing but flee, or losing a leader, after him struggling hard for his people and without any city/hub being damaged/lost, and with a proper replacement waiting for his throne?
Alliance’s losses is way worse than any Horde loss, because all the Alliance losses and even some victories make them feel utterly incompetent.
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Sylvanas can go full nuts, killing everyone friend or foe, and yet they’ll going to redeem her.
It’s just funny at this point, Blizz make unbelievable things to make Horde players happy, Alliance in the other hand…
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Well you do have a rather naïve king. Give time he still young. can not expect him to magically be the king everyone wants. he needs time to grow nd mature.
I already switched to Horde dude. I’m just pointing something that’s happening since Cataclysm(Varyan days), and playing as Horde and doing their content doesnt make me feel like the Alliance is above us, not in the slightest.
Most Horde players only whine to make sure nothing will change.
Horde is better regardless of lore development. I can pug high keys, I can get into a hardcore guild quite easily because there’s many out there, racials are no problem either, the grass is really greener here.
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The battle of equivalency in fantasy is one doomed to fail, nobody wins.
Yeah, nobody wins, sure…
actually about 78% of forums our alliance asking for something. look at present ones. war mode, tree , racial and raiding. It all alliance saying that it needs fix. Not in for the debate about subject viability. It just alliance tend to be more vocal than horde.
only time I usually see horde when something makes them mad. tree burning horde came out in droves. same thing with suarfang. Otherwise most post allaince side. Thus I have never see any post about UC and it lost at all or even asking when coming back. Horde players seem not to care much about anything or just do not ask for things. Make something social injustices. horde come out an pounce. Otherwise they seem indifferent.
Probably because Horde players are enjoying more the game.
I’m playing horde rn, and I know there’s no need for complaints. I do everything with Warmode on, feels like a secondary racial for horde at this point, it’s also easy af to find groups for mythic+/rbgs/arenas, I mean playing Horde is way better than Alliance that’s why i’m here.
Even in Horde side, quests involving Alliance, they’re no match. Meanwhile Horde already set a foothold at Stormsong for instance, when Alliance only have smalls unfinished outposts.
Everything is weak at Alliance, PVE/PVP, Lore, Racials, Development, population. There’s no point playing Alliance, you’re going to pay 15 bucks for something that only worth 10 at best.
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really got me. I find alliance side more interesting right now. Got night elf’s and worgon going rogue. The quest hubs are every nice and most have several areas of overlapping. With two zones that are very visual appealing to me. lore wise we get to see some interesting things on Night elfs. Lore always sucked in game now. some one ruined wow for me by quoting books. now all I do is say, What!!. alal the time.
As far racial I pay no attention. Reaction based ones focus on upper skilled players. I like ones that are passive. It more suited for average player. beside with only 12% of the entire base raid and 28% doing mythic (based on wowhead article) and the other doing god knows what. Seriously what are 88% people doing if not raiding? Horde does have skilled raiders. They represent a small fraction (wow head says 14%).
That’s the issue. It’s almost two separate games. It literally is with the new changes in consistency in the story.
One side wins even when they fail and the other fails even when they win.
It’s honestly no longer worth it. I am tired of it. I’m tired of the lies, the neglect, and the systematic abuse against the Alliance endorsed and propagated by the very devs of the game.
The game doesn’t make me happy and I won’t be paying for something that doesn’t make me happy. My money and time will go somewhere else.
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How does one educate a horde person ? quite hard I believe to drill some good old education into them…
Horde are blood thirsty and want nothing but death.
have you read some alliance post. one want to slit throats while horde sleep. other wants to burn women and children. Just in this forums post. there some very interesting people in the world. they play both side.
Well sometimes I am forced to go gank horde players to educate them I wish I did not have to do so.
But sometimes its my only way to make Horde learn since I cant fight fairly since horde attack me in groups I am forced to take other measures to deal with horde these days aka killing their low levels over and over.
If its red its dead I cant play nice anymore since Horde wont either.
yup. I always play on pvp server. I always see it fun. no matter what side. there always going to be gankers. just better to attack first and ask question latter. If see four or more. make strategic retreat. Till you can pick one off at a time.
Indeed. I use to let low levels live but then Horde started acting like jerks and ruining my day.
So I must return favor…
Old saying goes
Treat others how you wish to be treated. And an Eye for an Eye.
You are not watching the same scene. Goodness. It’s the Horde who were the distractions. Tell me again who was standing around talking to each other, and who was still in the middle of fighting? You act like they snuck away while the whole army was focus on the Alliance, and that is not true at all. The army fighting the Horde were still focused on the Horde. There was no distraction. They were getting overwhelmed, and the Warchief mortally wounded, and Faction leaders getting majorly hurt as well. Had they stayed, they would have been wiped out. Maybe thats what the Alliance ACTUALLY wanted. See I can make up stuff too. Like come on. You are being overly bias for Alliance to where you are making stuff up now to fit your narrative.
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Well, you would be wrong on most of your points here. Not only does advanced communication abilities exist with both gnomish (“Mekkatorque! Call in the gunship!”) and goblin technology, there are plenty of examples of magic communication, as well as verbally as we just heard the Banshee (supernatural beings able to flay flesh from bones with pure sound) Queen shout across the battle field 30 seconds earlier “Enough chatting Wrynn, Kill him already!” Could even go low tech with a note on an arrow fired to land next to Varian.
In other words, the ability and opportunity to inform the Alliance of the Hordes dire situation existed and was ignored. Taking a moment to shout “We are being overrun, we must retreat!” would have been enough. Then you get the same outcome as what happened without the factional political fallout of not even attempting to communicate what happened, during or after.
No one is arguing that retreating wasn’t the right call (well, someone might, but not anyone rational).
What was the wrong call was to retreat yet not communicate, especially during or at the very least afterwards.
I don’t believe that you can seriously believe that in RL in a coordinated operation that if an officer starts part of the force retreating without informing or attempting to inform of the need to to the rest of the force by radio or other contingency communication that they will not face consequences for it.
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NE’s and Worgen have done a grand total of jack and squat in 8.0. The NE people, Tyrande and Malfurion, nor the burning of Teldrassil are even so much as mentioned even one time in all of the Alliance content of 8.0. The whole event is just completely forgotten and brushed aside as soon as the event ended.
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well it sure seem interesting me on ptr. I guess each has a different view. Still I had fun. the overall direction it got going is well, cant find a word. there a ton of lore things wrong sure. Overall it really not that bad I guess. As it like a book. this is first chapter. hoping it gets more interesting down the road. not excepting much. the story for bfa is batter than before. still it all over place.