Hey look, it’s Ripsod refusing to prove his claims again, what a shocker.
You know, in the history of Era and 2019 vanilla, I have not seen a single log (and asked multiple times in forums) of a SR pug that cleared naxx.
never happened a single time as far as I know.
I wonder why.
Best gear in the game, tons of players that would love to attend, and yet not a single SR pug managed to clear the content. Sure guilds do it SR, but never a pug.
they never got that many in now cata gdkp…have the legit ML with LC guild main. They play a proper main in a proper guild. they wait for the gm’s other half and 4 siblings to get their gears first lol.
and on the 6 other nights of the week…run the gdkp alts for fun and profit. they don’t forget how to play wow to a level their main earns their keep on that spot on these alts.
Now why wouldn’t they put this alt in the real guild too they may ask.
Well, if the real guild main is slot 10 on the LC spreadsheet. And they see there are 15 people behind them they come to a realization. their alt would be slot 26 on LC list.
they work out that alt would most like not see gear in a year. Even if I was nice and had 50% drop rate. that is at least…52 weeks.
Did any guilds clear it? 
the only guilds that might, come from asian servers but who knows most guilds do need wbs I agree
Yes guild and GDKPs have no problems clearning naxx - because they can motivate players to focus, prepared with world buffs, and bring the required consumes.
You can’t get halfway into a loath fight and lose 4 healers because they didn’t bring shadow pots and then MT dies and raid wipes and now nobody has world buffs and you have to call off the run.
Or have players not understand how 4HM works and keep running wrong way during the fight while refusing to look at sheet in discord because they are SR-pug players used to doing nothing.
Or have players not full consume and then there’s not enough dps on patchwerk and the healers go oom.
Or the hundred other ways raids can wipe in naxx.
Good to know guilds clear it. Gdkps aren’t needed. Wbs aren’t needed. Maybe in gdkps where the player quality is lower and you take in afks. But not in guilds.
You need WB to clear it unless you grossly over gear the content (meaning you have gear from it) and force your healers to eat thousands of gold of runes ontop of mana pots on cd and have good RNG, and this is assuming all 40 players are 98+ parsers, it would still be likely to have a lot of wipes and waste so many more consumes than just getting the WBs.
If you think random guilds can just walk into naxx and kill the harder bosses without WB - it is clear you haven’t done vanilla naxx.
Maybe in gdkps where they take in afk buyers. But not in guild runs
Bruh guild players are on average worse.
And I said all 40 are 98+ parsers they still need world buffs - it is simply how the encounters work.
It is possible without, but you are gonna spend a few weeks to months farming the easier bosses to get gear to kill the harder ones - and by that time all your good players will have left to guild that aren’t bad.
Yeah in gdkps because of afk buyers.
Not in guild runs
All those things are happening right now even worse. You never saw people selling RMT services for HoJ, SGC, Briarwood reed, etc. You saw people offering gold services for it, never straight RMT. Additionally, people who used to just GDKP to afford their consumes on their mains now are resorting to RMTing instead of doing an in game loot system.
Also, if you dont like people RMTing, then ban all of them including the ones doing the GDKP. GDKPs were created and all of them were within the TOS. Thats why they still exist on Mists/Cata and in classic.
you’re telling me 40 people in AQ/Naxx gear will happily go back to MC to clear it for 1 person on an off raiding night? lol yea good luck, Even then guilds only do binding runs, so they kill 1 -2 bosses and they leave. they do not full clear.
Because that’s not happening in gdkps anymore. It’s not worse, it’s just not as easily hidden.
So instead of getting their RMT laundered in gdkp pots, they now have to risk their accounts to rmt. That’s the reason for the increase in bans.
That’s the thing, rmt is so easily laundered in gdkps no one knows what is legit and what isn’t. If you banned everyone that handled rmt in gdkps they would cease to exist over night.
Happens in my guild. You just have to find the good ones. What else are you going to do on an off night?
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thats still going back to mc
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no it doesn’t.
Play a different game? go outside? hangout with the wife? life? kids? Work?
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Funny you are trying to pull this card. What other game do you play that pays you for your time?
Do you ask the kids and wife for compensation? Why help them unless they are paying you
Gdkp mindset
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Swipers already malding. TBC will be epic without GDKP.
I can’t wait for the same 3 people to post over and over again.
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