TBC Needs to Be Fresh And Separate from Classic

Classic is sticking around alongside TBC because Blizz is trying to control their own IP AND they are making money off it.

Private servers on a game that is still around are 100% illegal and they have EVERY right to control their ACTIVE product.

They simply WON’T eliminate Classic entirely.

Allowing this would be a mistake. It would skew wow classic server pops to the point where Blizzard might have to implement other systems like cross realm populations to accommodate.

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No, it wouldn’t.

They have no intention of trying to “maintain” any population of Classic.

It’s there, you can play it if you want, or you can play TBC.

They’ll maintain it as a product, but they don’t give a rip about the population numbers overall. It’s in their best interest to see the server numbers go DOWN anyway, in order to stop the overload that has been happening.

I’m afraid you’re missing the point. Classic and TBC must be separate without server copies or transfers in order to preserve a healthy wow classic product people will come back to. It should be in the exactly same state it was when they left to play TBC. I strongly believe this and I hope Blizzard will to.

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That’s nonsense.

People will go back to Classic if they want to play it.

Making a copy won’t affect that in any way.

And if people are transferring? They didn’t want to stay on Classic in the first place, and it’s not up to you to hold those people hostage just so you can feel good about the population numbers.

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This seems like assumption or speculation. I can’t comment on that, because I don’t know, but if I ran a business, that made a game, and it made money the more people playing the game, I’d want as many people playing my game as possible.

This is where product choice comes into play and is what I’ve been saying.

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Making a copy will affect both games in their own ways. Classic will see fewer people in generally, where TBC will see a mass increase in level 60s which will have adverse effects on the economy, pvp struggle, etc. An equal playing field, on day one, is much more favorable to many, many people.

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It’s neither. The only thing they care about with the Classic population is the overload that has been caused by the large amount of people and the limited number of servers they’ve launched.

People leaving for TBC will eliminate that problem for them. Chances are the Classic population will normalize to a level where it will never need more servers launched in the future, and you’ll still have a place to play what you want to play.

Edit: You have a lot of terrible idea in your head about the coming TBC launch, and I obviously can’t redirect your thinking in any way.

I’m done here. You can wallow in your terrible heads space. TBC is happening whether you like it or not, and you’ll have to live with the idea that MOST LIKELY the Classic population will diminish regardless of HOW you get to TBC from Classic.

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I’m saddened you chose this route in our conversation. I wish you the best.

Edit: TBC was my most favorite expansion. I can’t wait to experience it again, However, I Also just want the execution to be right. You seem emotional about my ideas and disagreement is perfectly okay. But I hope you can learn to respectfully disagree with someone.

We need both fresh classic and fresh BC realms. The best option for choices

i honestly dont believe they will make fresh the only option, though it is possible they will have it as an option. the reasons i say this are:

  1. people are, at this moment, preparing for their current vanilla chars to go to outlands. they are leveling classes that are good in outlands, they are accumulating mats for outlands, their guilds are making outlands strategies and plans. if fresh is the only option, those players will feel as if they have been ripped off.

  1. if the only option is fresh, min maxxers and hard core players will roll horde, since their alliance chars are gone anyway. this would not auto correct till wotlk, essentially ruining tbc.

How is this Blizzard’s fault? Blizzard haven’t stated the TBC outcome. IF what you say is true, I don’t think Blizzard should feel obligated to cater to these individuals who assumed an outcome.

Hasty generalization of what TBC day launch will be like.

well it is an expansion, so most would assume it means your current character slate will expand. that is, afterall, how they’ve always done it.

someone else mentioned this phenomenon is seen on every private tbc server because they start fresh. fresh should be an option, but not the only option. if you’re alliance fan and plan to roll alliance again on fresh tbc, more power to ya. just plan accordingly, since it’ll be mostly horde on fresh.

A fair assumption on a brand-new IP. However, Blizzard is recreating past game versions. I wouldn’t assume anything in this uncharted territory. I wouldn’t even consider TBC an expansion to wow classic in the same sense. Blizzard is just re-creating versions of World of Warcraft. That is how I’d frame it.

This can happen in any game where most of the player base chooses 1 faction over another. However, I don’t see how this invalidates my favor of starting fresh.

it doesnt invalidate it. i’m saying, they should have a fresh option and a progression option. the reasons i think they should have fresh are:

  1. so they have protection of their tbc ip, since it would be like an out of the box tbc, like when people bought it originally.

  2. so players who want to remove bot fortunes from the economy, have a chance at making gold before the botters monopolize it all again (which they will eventually)

Why is it always people posting on retail characters or without actually having invested time and effort into their Classic characters asking for fresh only?

News flash, we’ve worked on our characters and want to take them with us into TBC.

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I don’t think there should be any other option than starting fresh. A progression option would effectively split the community in two halves. Imagine large guilds of players trying to be on board with 1 option of your 2 options.

<— lilock. i agree. you should have the option to progress your classic character slate into tbc.

And your solution is to force everyone to abandon their mains? Do you realize that people will refuse to play at all if they’re forced to give up their characters?

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Most people came back to Classic in hopes of TBC. SO you’re whole thread is wrong

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