If you just like to argue and pick fights with people on the forums for no reason, that’s not so cool.
But, if you’re drunk and just having fun, then that’s cool.
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I won’t post third party services on the forums, but if you genuinely believe that RMT doesn’t happen (or even happens less) in Retail or on Chinese servers, thanks to WoW Tokens, then there are a lot of things we could discuss… just not on these forums.
In any case, the Google Translate version of your Chinese post shall serve as proof that I have no idea what I am talking about and that you are the winner of our conversation.
Honestly… personal loot might be the way to go for tbc. It’s obviously too late in Classic, but for tbc in order to slow the botting epidemic then personal loot with no trading is a great idea.
Is it true and authentic to original TBC? No. But neither is 200,000-500,000 gold being traded for gear. Modern problems, modern solutions.
Theres nothing inherently wrong with the concept of GDKP.
Where the issues start is how the players are funding it.
If people are paying for it with legitimately earnt gold then theres nothing wrong with it.
If people are buying gold/botting or exploiting to pay for it then that’s an issues that blizz HAS to sort out well before TBC.
Right. But there are will be tons of bots with the ban-avoiding program because even current bots need to be updated every 1~2 days.
Some server’s gold costs are 100g = 0.5$ right now. Guess what we need to do in the next upcoming future.
Yes. Not because of personal loot, but because Blizzard actually enforces the ToS for retail. They simply need to better police Classic, not change the game.
Personal loot shouldnt be apart of the game but I agree that they need to enforce the rules against gold selling/buying more. I dont care for retail wow and 1 of the main things is personal loot. thats takes alot of the talking out of the game. if you have a problem with that go back to retail it has that loot. Also I am not against all changes I think seal of blood and veng should be on both sides. also TBC anchements would be cool same as split specing but personal loot. gg getting a tank to pug if they arent promised tanking loot. lol
You’ll find that most people on here have no idea how the world works because they seldom come up from their basements to accomplish whatever limited real life responsibilities they have.
Their debate skills are also almost exclusively gotchas and microanalyzing absolutely every single syllable of what you write, because they are incapable of building their own arguments and thus must resort to disassembling yours.
The people in this thread who think that the solution to gold RMT is to be harsher on buyers probably also think that Nixon’s War on Drugs, which included the mass incarceration of drug users, was a great idea.
Continuing with this similarity, many countries successful with fighting drugs have concentrated on regulating the substances instead of fighting against the users and sellers.
Now, this doesn’t mean that Blizzard should implement something like the WoW Token in Classic. The real solution would be rolling out new rules for things like GDKPs (a modern occurrence that didn’t really exist in Vanilla) and changing how XP in dungeons work to prevent players from literally printing gold through means clearly not originally intended.
Anyone against these kinds of changes to TOS and how dungeon XP works are directly contributing to the death of Classic WoW. Like in real life, they only care about their own enjoyment in complete disregard to others’.
It is not sensible to punish players for problems created by game design. Game service providers have become more comfortable punishing customers rather than delivering excellence.
GDKP is the not the problem, nor the prime mover. Accounts are sold for real money. Hard reserves are sold for real money. Subscriptions are paid for by others.
A problem without adequate description will have an inadequate solution. I am not going to do the big brain work for the billionaires profiting from A-B ventures. Neither should you. If they want it fixed, then they will fix it. Only they can fix it.
I think we should focus on why people buy golds. I never felt golds are require to play classic wow until phase 3.
But since gdkp came out, it has planted bots.
If you doing gdkp right then all the players are getting a cut of those big bids.
Eventually you will have enough gold to buy something just like normal dkp. GDKP is better because you actually get something at the end while dkp you get currency useful only to that raid group.
But yeah botting is really bad, its a game disease with no cure.
I disagree with bans. What should happen imho, is blizzard should have servers set aside, servers that would ONLY be populated by bots, gold selling accounts, and gold buying accounts.
Get caught botting? Entire stable of characters existing or created afterward, the entire account, limited to the bot servers
Get caught exploiting? Same
Get caught selling gold? Same
Get caught buying gold? Same
This would be just punishment, and blizzard would still receive the subs from the offending accounts.
GDKP is used for alt/pug runs. I’ve never heard of main guild runs using that system for gearing players.
If blizzard rally wants to fix it, they need to do a gold cap in tbc and start heavily enforcing rules. Adding a token system may be a necessary evil if they are unwilling to do that.
On my server, gdkp works well. It’s obvious there are gold buyers, but prices of items are usually reasonable and you can get gear as frequently as a gold buyer. 300k on naxx weapons is obscene and completely warps the economy. I can see that ruining gdkp for the server as a select group of players has an obscene amount of gold and will lead to rapid inflation.
