I am hoping the class changes launch at the later patch positions so certain class/spec combos can actually be a little more fun/fluid to play since most classes didn’t get the major changes until 2.3
Would we prefer to be on the struggle bus until ZA comes out or have viable specs from the beginning?
I hope they do some progressive patching but realistically based on how classic was handled I’m assuming we’re gonna get a frankenpatch mostly based on 2.4.3
I’d rather be on the struggle bus. Choose your class accordingly.
I’m assuming we’re gonna get a frankenpatch mostly based on 2.4.3
According to blizzcon they have the patch data from 2.0 on. There’s no reason for them to do a frankenpatch. The only reason classic had one is because they didn’t have the data.
of course there is. Less dev time for them to just slap on a singular patch rather than progressively adding class balancing changes
Less dev time? It’s more dev time to make the frankenpatch than to leave it as is.
Lolwut? The simplest thing they could do is 2.4.3 everything and stagger the content release.
Also you saying they only went with 1.12 because that’s the only data they had is pure conjecture. Even if they had the data back to the beta they might still have done what they did.
They literally said that at blizzcon. It’s not conjecture when omar himself said it.
I expect certain things like talents will likely be in their final state, however I expect a lot of content to be closer to its original state ideally, or at least gated in some manner.
Also is there really any benefit since everyone is going to know what the future is so to speak with class changes, it’s not like the class changes weren’t more or less entire improvements over pretty outdated mechanics. I would at the same time like to see raid content and Heroic dungeon content receive a tweak because the insane amount of changes that are on the 2.4 client makes heroics a joke.
I think the best choice for them is to 2.0 onward unless they have a way to make the content as difficult as it was as of 2.x patch, which seems way more complicated than just starting at the final version of 2.0.x 2.1.x 2.2.x 2.3.x etc. when they release the new content. They are already having to release an update to unlock the content anyway, so it’s really just releasing like…4 patches total throughout the entire expansion and being done with it.
He said it’s the oldest data they had. Never that they would have done anything else even if they had the option. So, once again, to say they would have done patch progression is pure conjecture by you.
I’m so excited! I hope I get to stab things with my weapons!
Omar himself clearly says they were using the data to restore the game. They wanted to go as far back as they could but all they had is 1.12. He shows that they have 2.0. You can keep replying to me but there is nothing you can say to get me to agree.
My opinion: you are wrong. From your other comments you appear to be just like these other guys who have no idea what they are talking about.
I’m stating facts. You’re stating what you would have wanted. Show me anything where Blizz said they would have done patch progression even if they had the opportunity.
No you’re not. I’m not stating what I want. I’m stating what omar said at blizzcon.
So then you can’t cite any source from Blizzard that they would have done patch progression if they had the data? Thank you. I’m glad we’re in agreement.
There are HUGE amounts of bugs that got ironed out with each patch. Most of the heroics had loads of trash mobs and bosses that were borderline impossible due to buggy behaviour (not to mention TK and SSC). Classes were also broken in some instances.
They would need to spend a huge amount of time going through each patch and comparing it to the final patch and then fixing them for all iterations of TBC. It would be vastly easier and smoother for them to do a 2.4 launch. The question is will they retune the content or not? (I assume not)
Talents/classes will be as they were in 2.4.3, just like Classic didn’t go through the talent changes vanilla did. It’d be the logistic nightmare from hell because they’d literally have to redo everything from scratch vs just having everything at its end of life stage where they only have to release content in a gated fashion. Instead of seeing TBC only a few months after Naxx it’d be the typical yearly content drought.
But say people were willing to wait…from a company standpoint it’d be a complete waste of resources to do a literal 1:1 re-release of everything when those changes are only gonna last a few months at a time when we know the end result is 2.4.3 anyway. Just like in classic, yeah it’s gonna be inaccurate at first, but by the end of the expansion it won’t matter.
it’s not about the destination, it’s about the JOURNY. I mean, by the end of classic i’ll have full t3, why not just give everyone that at the start? we all knew it was going to end up there anyway.
The game wasnt that broken that you should sturggle up to ZA on any class