Hi. I’ve been healing with Grid & Grid 2 for years, but am seeking a faster way to heal. Hence, I have been trying to set up my UI so I can still use those options, but also another way. The idea is to bind spells (for example Flash Heal or Shadowmend) to keys (like “R”). Then while in a dungeon target a party member with a mouse wheel scroll up or down and then hit the keybound spell, “R” for the heal and boom, done.
Binding spells to keys is easy, but I am having a lot of difficulty finding a way to simply scroll up and down in a logical way. The only way I’ve tried to do this is under targetting in the Blizzard UI. However, after setting this up it simply does not work well. You cannot set it up to simply scroll up from one member to another, and down that way too.
Any help so this would be possible would be great.
Oh, of course I do use Clique. But I don’t want to move my mouse pointer around the screen. I simply want to mouse wheel scroll up to the top member in the group, say the tank, target him, and then hit “R” to Shadowmend him. Then maybe two seconds later I want to scroll from the top of the five of us to the dps at the bottom and do the same, hit “R.”
This is how Moadmoad does it. Moadmoad is one of the top Wow healers.
You’d probably have to bind Target Party Member or something to multiple keys on your mouse. Scroll Up, Scroll Down, Shift-Scroll Up, Shift-Scroll Down, etc.
I just hover over the part a lot and use only mouseclicks for all my heals except for Healing Rain.
Yeah, I was thinking, you just enter the group member names as they appear in your frames into custom macros. But if you pug it means you have to enter four names every dungeon. You also have to figure out what to do when their names have characters like e with a line over it. Also, using a mouse wheel move up or down would be a dream as opposed to hitting say, “F1” for the tank, “F2” for yourself, and so on. I don’t see how that would work really, tbh.
I’d just get proficient at using Clique if you aren’t already. Keep the party frames middle of the screen and just to the left of your toon. Use only mouseclicks for your heals or easily reached keys like Q or E. Create mouseover macros for those. You shouldn’t really have to worry about having to move your mouse around too much. Just keep it near your party frames (I use the Blizzard frames personally).
I wish I could just copy and paste Moadmoad’s entire set-up to be honest, it’s a piece of art.
You can. He doesn’t use much. Blizzard default and Clique (probably Clique - looks like Clique).
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Naw, Moadmoad does it differently. He somehow targets party members without his mouse pointer. Then he hits “R” or something for a spell cast to go out on the person.
I have watched him stream a lot. You very rarely see a mouse pointer on his screen. You can see though that he changes targets as in arena but not with two others, with four others. A lot of pvpers do it that way. You click the mouse wheel button in to target yourself, scroll up for another member and down for the other. But with a group of five it is hard to mouse wheel up and down. I have tried and it is a nightmare. You get, for example, up going to the tank, then mouse wheel down to the bottom member then shift up to the third member and shift down to the fourth member. It is just something that is complicated and not easy to do. Whereas if you could just scroll one up to move up and one down to move down through the list–then it would be easy and possible.
Honestly, I have asked Moadmoad in his stream to make a guide or explain it, but he says his method is “personal.” I take that to mean a secret.
I’ve also heard him say in his stream he has an eye blink monitor device. One blink is shadowmend, two is pw: shield and so on. Lol.
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He has things mouseover macro’d and bound to things like Arena 1, Arena 2 and Arena 3 most likely. I was talking about his raid set-up.
No way. It’s not mouseover macroed. You would see his mouse pointer. You rarely, if ever see one.
I’m only half following what you’re talking about, tbh, but wouldn’t the @partyN conditional work better than names?
/cast [@party1] Shadow Mend
This would automatically cast Shadow Mend on the first party member down from the top of the party UI excluding yourself regardless of your current target. @party2 would target the second party member, @party3 the third, and @party4 the fourth.
If you’re trying to actually target the party members, your best bet is, unfortunately, probably:
/targetparty and /targetparty 1
This will cycle through party members in front of you much like tab target works. Adding the “1” at the end just makes it cycle backwards. Or at least it should, according to Wowpedia’s entry on the command.
Edit: Oh, actually, you can also do a combination of the two.
/target [@party1]
That should target the first party member at the top of the party UI aside from yourself. I tested it with @player and @focus and it worked fine.
Edit2: I might actually have found a convoluted solution for you that will allow you to scroll up and down the party members in the party UI. Let me fidget with it for a bit and see if I can get it down pat. It’d only work correctly for a full party, though.
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Is there a way to move one member up or down with the mouse wheel?
I use Grid 2, and have the tank at the top, then myself and then the three dps. If you could simply mouse scroll up and down through the list, that would be a dream. Often though, you get the tank as member three or something but rearranged because he is the tank (this is when you have your group arranged by role). Hence, how you could make something to simply scroll top down from the tank to the healer, then dps1, 2, and 3–seems an impossible dream.
Apparently there have been addons in the past that might have done this (the emphasis on “might”). I have seen names of addons mentioned in forums like this and have looked them up. However, none of them work now.
Using a convoluted collection of macros it might be possible to use the mousewheel to cycle through party members. I’m messing with it now, trying to see if WoW allows all the calls and conditionals to get something working.
The long and short of it is that you can use macros to target @partyN and also rearrange the buttons on your action bar. So you could have a macro keybound that will target @party1, then move itself to the end of a list of four macros and move the list one side over to the left, so if you hit that same keybind again it’ll use the macro for @party2, and so on.
I have absolutely no idea how this would interact with a UI addon, however. And there might be some problems, which is what I’m looking into now. For example, you’d need ample bar space to put these macros, of which you might need a total of 10 if you want the option to cycle either direction, so it would be ideal if you can call actions from a non-active action bar page, but I’m not sure you can.
I’m almost certain that there’s absolutely no way for a macro to determine a target player’s role in the party, so the exact thing you’re asking for isn’t quite possible.
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Apparently there was some kind of addon that worked up until recently. It allowed you to target the tank, via @tank and healer, via @healer. But it no longer works. I downloaded it and tried it, having F1 be the key to target the tank, No luck with it though, and it has not been updated for SL.
Also, how you could have made that work with a mouse scroll seems beyond possible.
That’s a shame, because that’d be so useful in many cases.
You mean the crazy nonsense I posted or the addon’s features? Either way, I actually have the macro chain I was talking about functioning fine cycling in one direction, so I know it could work in theory. Would it be wieldy? …Probably not.
Right now I can have it target the player, then party members 1, 2, 3, and 4 in that order before looping back to player, all with one keybind (but 5 action bar slots).
Interesting. This is from another forum:
“Pretty sure most healers use a script that puts your frame at the bottom and then use scroll up to target party 1, scroll down to target party 2, and then use mouse wheel click to target self. You can just make target macros for both party members so when you scroll it doesn’t cycle through your team if you accidentally scroll more than once. Been using this method for a very long time and it feels really good. You don’t want to click your party frames because you need to move with your mouse and if you’re clicking frames it just slows you down and you will be too slow to avoid cc.”
The point here is that in a 3 vs 3 this idea works well. But how you would do this in a five man is beyond what I can do with macros. Moadmoad is doing just this though. How, I have no idea.
The premise though is why I want to set up this way. I often miss dodging this or that because I am moving my mouse to target other players to heal them. Then I get hit because I could not move because my mouse was busy.
You can index party members by position, but at that point it’s more addon than macro.
There’s a keybinding under targeting with a couple settings that might work in 5-mans which will ‘target previous friendly player’. Just bind it to your scroll wheel and it’ll scan through friendlies. Not sure if it maintains target order though.
I wonder if there’s some sort of castsequence targeting macro?
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Yeah, the more I mess with the way you could do this with macros and keybinds, the more I realize it’s so unwieldy that it’s not even worth the glance.
You’d need to click a macro just to reset the macro order on the bars every time you cycle through just to make it so you scroll from the top next time you start cycling. That sounds like a total mess to use.
It was a fun experiment, though.
An addon probably is the best solution. No idea the exact mechanisms of how Moadmoad’s setup, but it likely isn’t actual scrolling or otherwise includes an addon we’re not aware of.
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