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I remember competing with my other tank friends on who could finish The Nexus the fastest. If you have a problem with large and fast pulls, you are almost certainly doing content that your gear level is too high for. Properly scaled keys are not like this.
Not to be rude, but if you find yourself struggling in dungeons that are meant for the gear your character has, that is a skill issue. As a tank, I am not going to slow down in an M0 just because you want me to. Kick me if you want but I’m likely only there for a training matrix or a specific item and your tourism isn’t my problem. Speedrunning is the only way to make otherwise trivial content engaging.
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You do you. This is why I don’t pug. People have no intentions of caring about the rest of the group or the healer. But at least we have yet another thread to point out the toxicity of pugs, right?
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I deeply encourage people not to pug and make friends to play with, so that’s great!
If folks want to go slower they’re welcome to form their own group. Personally I don’t understand the fascination with pulling one mob at a time and sight-seeing every single asset in the dungeon.
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> cherrypicking a reason/solution to a problem cherrypicked by other people that cherrypicked the unbalance in their levels of frustration and joy
Zzzzzzzz…
I just want cata type dungeons back before all them nerfs to see the tears here. Sometimes I speed sometimes I don’t when tanking you don’t like it boot me I could care less.
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Cata dungeons were awesome before the nerfs. Loved them.
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I vividly remember the rage on the forums when they made heroics hard in cata. The way in which they made them hard is antiquated and I don’t want that style to return to the game, but yeah.
Regardless, they would’ve become trivial eventually even if they weren’t nerfed, and we would’ve been speedrunning them.
You couldn’t speed run them due to some of the mechanics. Even when people tried to speed run them, they’d wipe the group. It even happens in Timewalking now after the nerfs. And there aren’t really many skips you can do either. They weren’t designed that way.
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Make your own group for such things. Get people who want to speedrun.
Like, when I tank and want to speed through things? Guess what? I let people know ahead of time. No fuss, no muss.
Simple.
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I was absolutely speedrunning cata heroics during dragon soul. The mechanics were trivial. Even though it was all nerfed they would not have kept up with the gear.
Obviously there were mechanics to watch out for and some dungeons were longer and/or harder, but running the dungeon with the goal of getting through it as fast as possible was definitely a thing. People misremember how hard those dungeons actually were. They just hit hard.
I never got the madness I had a guild always in voice. Idk the game just bores me alot. Invasions dungeons just group everything aoefest it down. I think cata type dungeons would do this game a world of good in 2022
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Don’t invite me to your group. Not to be cold but with cross-realm and stuff I honestly couldn’t care less about your desires. If I’m there for my reward I’m going to get it in the most time effective way. If you don’t like that don’t use the group finder.
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Thus, you weren’t chain pulling them like you could other expansions.
Their point was “tell people first so they know.”
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Back in the day we threw this under the term “chain-pulling” and considered it one of the marks of a competent tank.
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A large part of the difficulty was the change to triage style healing.
Many healers were previously able to get away with spamming only flash of light or whatever and Cata was a huge wake up call for a lot of people.
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I think most people dont mind the “speed” runs, they just don’t like them when it’s within the first weeks of an expac launch when it’s all brand-new stuff, especially if it’s a random group of people.
Maybe people are trying out a new class and/or role, maybe people havent been there before , etc…
I recall that as well. When were people doing this, the first week(s) the of wotlk launch when everything was new or towards the end when everyone had run the dungeons dozens of times and hilariously outgeared them?
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Yup, zoomer tanks are the reason I don’t heal anymore. You might be having a blast, but i’m tunneled and sweating bullets all day, and it’s just not fun.
Rerolled dps.
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In my eyes it’s implied unless otherwise stated
It’s the new standard, you don’t confirm the standard
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I remember doing them when we were in Naxx, because I didn’t play ulduar and didn’t come back until ICC.