Speed running is literally the point of M+ though…
Imagine blaming mechanics and features for people’s behavior.
Maybe people should just take responsibility, and not blame literally everything and everyone else. Did your parents not teach you about sportsmanship? Winning and losing with grace and understanding?
Competitive elements do not justify poor behavior. They do not give you a green card to be rude, or otherwise. You choose to patient, or impatient. You choose. No mechanic, feature, person, or otherwise is making you. You choose.
Be better.
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That’s a long a s s post. I obviously stopped reading after the first sentence. If it’s a ‘’ I quit ‘’ post, can I have your gold please?
You give the players the tools to be toxic then more often than not they will be.
A bigger culprit to this imo is key depletion. Idk how people feel about it but if I miss the timer by a few seconds on a 15, I dont want to run a 14 again.
TLDR
Tanks have been rushing since vanilla
It really depends on who you’re playing with. It’s pretty easy to be a casual clearing into the teens and pulling one pack at a time. Just needs a steady pace, not a rushing one.
People could solve almost all their problems by just taking the time to find people to play with who’s goals align.
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So you want to be able to casually stroll through the dungeon, wiping however many times and get KSM? Is that what this comes down to? Lol
Well said.
So true. About a week a go I posted about being anxious to run dungeons because of the sometimes toxic environment.
There didn’t seem to be a community for people who wanted to play, but not be ultra-competitive, so I created one and in a couple of days it has grown to over 850 people who are playing with people who share that playstyle. It has been the most refreshing experience I’ve had in WoW. Last night out of the blue somebody ran a raid for people who have never raided. Amazing.
I can’t post links here, so just fire me a message and I’ll send you the link to the in-game community and the Discord.
Get out there and have fun. The people you play with are what makes the game enjoyable. If you are ultra-competitive with a thick skin find those kinds of people. If you aren’t then find a community like this one with people that play the same way that you do.
It will be a lot more fun!
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Holy moly. Thought I was about to read the entirety of game of thrones with how long the OP was.
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Wow. It does really suck that casuals, the people who only play a few hours a week, are feeling all this stress from M+.
Poor casuals. Having already hit level cap, grinded out those heroic dungeons, done all of their M0’s for the week and now pushing keys. It’s not really fair, M+ has been out for a full 3 days, didn’t blizz know this is just too much stress for these…casuals.
What I love is that casuals will complain about how little time that have to play but as soon as you put a timer in front of them it’s “whoa whoa whoa, where’s the rush? We got all the time in the world.”
It is that simple actually.
BTW how would you progress your key level with no chance of failure?
Nothing you’re saying is inherently wrong. However, I feel like this is yet another post about tanks/mythics that can be solved by the advice “make your own group and communicate expectations beforehand”. While an official filter would be great, there’s a reason you can post text in your group post other than just the dungeon name and difficulty. Nothing is stopping you from filtering out that group yourself. Yes, it’ll take longer, but having an automatic filter would ALSO take longer, you just wouldn’t have to do it manually. But then Speedrun players would still queue under “completion” just to troll, because we can’t have nice things.
This whole thread is based on a false premise.
The end.
This is a good idea but in the end it will not really change.
I don’t tank randoms anymore since the call to arms bags were nerfed to hell. And I speed pull only as fast and as much as I can handle.
Here is your wish though: blizzard nerfed self healing and healers. For some reason they thought is a good idea to just up ho and incoming damage at 70 by 40%. Call me whatever but I’m truly hoping some one lost their job over that. It was a snap call for a fix so healers had to do more. That alone slows me down.
The game is messed up right now over lazy DPS that want healers and tank to DPS. So I pull more and do more AoE and post like this then pop up.
So ya… Have fun.
Make your own group is the way to solve the problem. Especially with those you know will want to run them like you want to.
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Its funny how people that don’t m+ keep trying to get it changed, not realizing it literally has carried the game since BFA.
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They are asking for another option, why is that impossible for you to grasp lol?
Because apparently, some people suck at explaining what they want.