prediction, will any tank overcome the warrior dominance in 8.2?
Well the only thing changing on warriors is a bit of damage so probably not. Way to good at mitigating damage and will easily still be top damage tank.
Think more depends on the seasonal affix honestly.
- M+ selection will remain exactly the same because mechagon will not be in season 3
- the seasonal affix will likely not involve massive magic damage because this will murder ALL tanks (including BDK)
- so the vast majority of tank damage intake will still be physical
- prot warrior in 430+ gear (assuming they correctly prioritize haste) will have a BASELINE armor near 70% reduction, combined with extremely high shield block and IP uptime, TWO defensive cooldowns with high uptime (shield wall + last stand) and ANOTHER TWO defensive + offensive cooldowns (demo shout + avatar) also with high uptime
- all essences are available to all tanks (including the VOP cooldown essence) so unless there is massive spec-specific tuning here (unlikely because blizzard is lazy and fired most of their community feedback team) it will not balance out the prot warrior issues listed above
the vast majority of the M+ gaming population SEVERELY underestimates just how absurd prot warriors are against physical damage intake, and how this difference will further widen in patch 8.2 onwards
They don’t have to. Protection warrior’s main advantage is due to the current seasonal affix; when that changes, most of the advantage of prot will disappear.
yes because being able to stay alive far easier than any other tank is not an advantage
So they will have less to burst on, pretty sure they still win in damage, and mitigation.
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Armor % (as well as block) are not what’s shown on the paper doll. Both are value + k / k.
K was adjusted in s2 and will be adjusted again in s3. Warriors armor will improve slightly, if s2 is any indication of tuning, but there won’t be any large leaps forward.
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Of course they will win mitigation, warriors are the only pure mitigation tank.
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Again, all tanks benefit from these differently, just like trinkets. A few tanks liking VoP, like prot or paladin, does not mean the other tanks are necessarily weaker because they are less inclined. They will gain more value from other essences, which pally and prot will, similarly, not have as much value with.
How’d you reach this math, by chance? Seeing as how a standard 400 prot warrior has ~62.5% armor, and a 416 prot warrior has ~64-65%, how do you gain 5-6% from 15 ilvl, when armor has DR?
Hahahahahhahaahaaa
Depends on the dungeon, the week, the level, the season, etc.
Talking out of your rear, again, because no one knows this.
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alright drez you win
in the past month you have managed to convince the forum population that prot warriors are fair and balanced, that physical damage mitigation does not matter and that with minor changes both guardian and VDH will be powerful and viable in 8.2/season 3
I’ll just come back to such threads in 2-3 months as well as the M+ leaderboards to see the reality
Citation needed
Everything is viable, so obviously. For the powerful part?
Citation. Is. Needed.
And my favorite part, is that on top of your little schpeal here, you continue to ignore that you’ve made multiple baseless claims, with no evidence or backing to support you. In fact, pretty much every theorycrafter for the varied tank specs disagrees with your take on “prot scaling so well”. Brewmaster is the only tank that is noted to scale slightly better than the other 5, and that’s not by some massively unfair margin.
Totally wrong numbers across multiple posts you’ve made, in comparing Guardian to prot warrior, talking about prot warrior now, comparing Vengeance to guardian, just talking about vengeance.
So yes. I’m the devil who doesn’t think that Blizzard breathing is a crime. But let’s not ignore how much factually incorrect crap you try and spread to work people up.
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If no further balance changes go through, Prot warrior will still be the #1. You simply can’t touch their mitigation, its bonkers. Their damage will still be very solid too after the talent “nerf” they’re getting (key emphasis on the quotations).
Guardian druid and VDH might be close (depending on how the Veng buffs play out if they’re good), but they’re both not block tanks at the end of the day.
Yall sleeping on Prot Paladin ![:wink:](https://d38bqls1q93fod.cloudfront.net/en/wow/images/emoji/twitter/wink.png?v=6" ":wink:")
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prot pally’s are possibly the most underrated tank in the game when it comes to m+ tbh I think it’s strengths have largely gone unnoticed in everyones rush to play the “fotm” specs in s1 and now in s2
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Idk that I’d call them underrated. They’ve been a top tank all xpac. Last week I played paladin in most of my keys (and I’m a prot fanboi no matter where it falls) and had a decent time. Idk how my paladin or bear are going to fair with skittish, but I’m anxious to see which will be more fun this week.
youre right people don’t understand how immune warrior is to physical damage, it wasn’t much different in end of legion either, you could just pull everything in a dungeon and survive.
Yeah prot paladins are good but most healers know how to heal a warrior, they know he is good with the physical stuff and needs the big heals on magic damage, its an easy formula.
legion tanking was a completely different beast
EVERYONE had some reliable source of self-sustain, even prot warriors with their legendary bracer rage → healing conversion
all that got gutted and scaled back combined with a refocus by blizzard on most tanking damage intake being physical, and people are somehow now magically surprised that prot warrior is top of the pile
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Prot Warrior in Legion hahahahahhahaha
Thanks for proving yet again you know absolutely nothing about M+
Brewmaster
- **[Hot Trub] - Purifying Brew deals 30% of your purified staggered damage to all enemies within 10 yards.
this might make brewmaster very powerful