Tanking low level dungeons is hell

I’ve had to leave two dungeons in a row, both of them in progress, the rudeness and argumentative behavior began within the first minute on the second one.

I almost left a dungeon yesterday because a Warlock kept trying to tank the boss with his pet and wiped the group. When I asked why he pulled the boss he said because he’s undead and the living must die.

I’m not sure what is going on with World of Warcraft players these days, but I don’t remember them being this malicious. I wonder what new players must think when they’re trying to learn this game and have to put up with abusive players who like to troll and argue.

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Sounds like bad luck.

I don’t do dungeons often that I can’t solo or duo with one of my kids, but the few pugs I have done weren’t too bad.

People aren’t all that chatty any more but nothing I could complain about.

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Never had that really. When someone was intentionally being dumb I just vote to kick and move on. Also reporting.

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I usually do that, but lately the ones I have been grouped with have been outrageously rude and obnoxious. Maybe it’s just bad luck, I don’t know.

No, that sounds about right, although “I am undead and the living must die” at least gets bonus points for creativity. You got jerks and malcontents in shared world going well back before WoW, check out Tweety’s classic EQ rant “Try Being a Guide, you Nutless Assmuncher”, but it got worse when WoW hit huge and brought a flood of new players to the genre; we use to share screenshots of WoW on the City of Heroes forums, they didn’t believe the stories we told them.

It was somewhat less common before the group finder, getting a group together took long enough for people who just wanted to screw around to bother, and your server community would remember your name if you were too unpleasant to group with. On the other hand, people would put up with obnoxious groups longer, precisely because it would take longer to find a new group.

I wonder how many new players there really might be, amid the sea of alts.

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Is this something that happens only on US servers? Cause on EU no one says anything during dungeons. Low level or m+ doesn’t matter.

Maybe these are the new players, thats why them seem worse.

I haven’t been in those dungeons since 7.3.5 so I can’t say if they are any worse or better than they were prior to that date but I don’t seem a lot of difference at max level.

They won’t say a word until you dare complain about something ridiculous they’re doing, then the arguing and mudslinging begins.

It is like this since … since the balancing of the game was purely on endgame. Yes i know, WoW was always balanced around the endgame … but since like Cataclysm the Devs seemingly dont care at all about anything lower than the last 10 levels.
Legion was bad for this but Battle for Azeroth is the worst.

Add to that the fact that leveling up is not a Journey anymore and everyone just want to already be in BfA zones … and this is what you get. Impatience. Then you have that go-go-go-go-go-go mentality … plus the really boring dungeons by now and everyone is on the fritz and want to just be out of there already.

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Idk I wouldn’t be mad, the undead joke is pretty funny tbh

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I laughed, but I didn’t feel bad when the group vote kicked him. :laughing:

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It’s just because it’s trivial content. The more easy and mindless something is, the more bad and obnoxious players you will find.

I’m leveling my zandalari paladin right now, and going through the same thing when I queue as prot. There’s usually 1-2 obnoxious players in each group who think they’re the tank and pull big packs, rip on me for going to slow or are just flat out immature.

I had a moment last night where I said “brb 30 seconds, making a drink” and one mage proceeded to pul three packs of mobs and wiped the group and then said “we don’t need 10 seconds between each pull” before rage leaving the instance.

Fortunately, this stuff (mostly) sorts itself out at max level when you do more difficult content, as that toxic playstyle doesn’t fly

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If I’m doing a bonus bag run or something I just go at a moderate pace and only pay attention to the healer. And I don’t look at the chat.

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These players are causing wipes and wasting everyone’s time. When I zoned into those “dungeons in progress” they were running back from a wipe. That Warlock who kept pulling the boss with his pet wiped us twice before he was removed from group.

It is trivial content, but one or two over confident players can cause wipes if they think they can just AoE down those old dungeons or tank bosses with their pets.

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No disagreement from me at all, it is ultra obnoxious and a waste of everybody’s time. Not really sure what the solution is, besides making the dungeons or leveling more difficult so people realize they can’t get away with it.

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I don’t know either, how do you cure impatience?

There’s very little influx of new players and the ones who level are all probably running new alts. I agree that most people while leveling via dungeons have the gogogo mentality but you should also realize that brewmaster is a terrible tank spec to tank low level dungeons.

I noticed this also while tanking recently. I wish I had a leveling healer friend again.

It might be a weekend thing.

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Yes, a party member informed me of that while the Warlock was using his pet to tank stuff. What is the reason for that precisely? I’ve been doing a good job of watching my stagger, but I do take massive spike damage occasionally.

Depending on how low the dungeons are, I feel like even a mage can (and will) tank.

But I feel your pain because I’ve healed some lowbie dungeons and it’s all I can do to keep up.