Tanking heroics sucks - I refuse to do it for free

Yeah imagine thinking that guy is the best tank ever, haven’t you heard of Egwynwarr

Oh yeah? Imagine trying to play better than a guy who is about 10 years old playing Classic-WoW 8 years on private-servers and about 3 years on official.

He has a guild where all its members pass the objects to him, they give him gold and not only that. He chooses the best players from his guild for his raids or parties.

But no guys, we can beat people with 40 hours a week work just like us, playing barely 2 or 3 hours a day while the guy plays 16 to 18 hours a day.

Have a little common sense

How do you think they are going to beat a heoric dungeon with 4 pugs that they paid for tanking and how do they think they are going to beat esfand when he has an army of simps helping him / facedesk

I will be honest, TBC is legitimately new for many, and you’re expecting people to either drum up memories from 2007 or go read guides, as a tank I get it, Totally rough out there but sometimes you need to take the lead and initiative, if you don’t want to tank for free that’s your business but many would rather continue looking for 30 minutes to find a tank for free than pay.

I do think that saying you’re new isn’t enough, if a DPS/healer is calling you out after you’ve explained then take charge and remind them but don’t be a butt about it, if they still keep harassing you then leave, you’re a tank, use that privilege and either say you’ll just leave or actually just drop group, I suspect what you’re dealing with is a bit of Confirmation bias from a handful of runs vs all runs, so far I have had only 1 problem and every other time something occurred it was resolved with communication, if it is really that bad you need to do research on your class and find a guild.

That person you think is the best tank stated on stream that he doesn’t use Devo aura because armor suffers from diminishing returns……

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YES that’s why all the players who came from FFXIV and Retail-WoW. They did spam dungeons, spellcleaves and did absurd things, 99% of them left in less than 30 days.

Those who stayed these two years in wow-classic were TRUE FANS and those who are going to play TBC-CLASSIC until the release of lich king will be serious people in this game and believe me these fans are adult people over 30 who don’t have time of dealing with toxic little kids who come to play classic as if it were “Fornite”.

Didn’t you see how the boosted characters are bullied, spit upon, not invited to play and even in PvP they are killed for sport? But “Nah” go and charge those grandparents 50G for tanking you will see how you do not last even 1 month without the whole server spitting in your face

I’ve tanked plenty of dungeons for 50g plus already, not sure what you’re on about. Highest was 200g for a quick arc run.

Thats fine. Wait until lfg. When the ques get really long. They add bonus reward for tanking or healing. Its a lot of extra gold. U wont have to pay. Blizz will do it for you.

I honestly wish I levelled a tank instead of playing Ele sham. I love Ele so much, but man, posting in LFG all day for a tank and not getting any heroics done is horrible. I’d rather play a tank and be able to play the game, and all that goes along with tanking, rather than sit in LFG hoping I get lucky to find one. I’d also much rather help a new tank learn the dungeons and get comfortable playing tank, rather than berating them for learning. It’s part of why the WoW community isn’t as amazing as everyone says. Someone makes a mistake or is learning and they cop abuse for it or people leave the group straight away. People should be more grateful of the people willing to tank for them.

Unfortunately I levelled my first toon starting in the pre-patch, and didn’t know there’d be a tank shortage of this magnitude. Also kind of thought tanks in guild would be running with guild groups rather than pugging everything solo - but I was wrong.

Ah actually, it’s good that you touch on that topic. “After his explanation” he put on devotion aura to please his viewers, yet they killed him another 30 times proving his point.

Imagine believing that 1% physical damage reduction will save you from pulls of 8-10 heroic mobs holy god

I mean I pull threat off the tank by breathing on the mob so I do actually evasion tank frequently

A good tank wouldn’t be trying to face tank those pulls :smiley: He is the last person people should be taking advice on tanking from.

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lmao imagine cc’ing just kill the mobs lul

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can’t tell if trolling

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No. DPS can actually contribute more than just mindlessly doing damage and the occasional CC while simultaneously scrolling through Instagram because they are bored.

People who think that tanks needs to know every single mob, what they do, and what needs to be done in response are toxic.

If you are a DPS. You need to pay attention and be aware of mechanics as well. Help out a little.

Oh well go and see for yourself.

His live shows last 10-12 hours a day and there this one does not have many days where he was killed like 50 times in a heroic dungeon.

That’s why it makes me silly that you expect that you are going to complete that content with 4 pugs that pay you for tank.

I’m not saying the tank needs to know everything while the dps know nothing. I’m saying the tank should know how to lead a group into the unknown and overcome the challenges of not knowing everything.

Can a dps or healer do this role? Sure! But it’s smoother if the tank does it since they are the one pulling and setting the pace.

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A tank should lead, but DPS should be good followers. That’s the problem.

If someone else is tanking, and I’m cat dps, I’m not staring at my dps meter. I’m:

(1) following the kill order. If they’re not marked I’m making smart choices on what to DPS
(2) I’m not ripping aggro
(3) I’m not pulling and I’m not messing up LOS pulls
(4) I’m debuffing with FF and demo shout as appropriate
(5) I’m watching out for the group and I’ll taunt, bash, or cyclone as appropriate
(6) I’ll innervate mana users as appropriate

I’m doing all that without being told.

Compare that to the typical PUG warlock who is seeding on the pull and then spamming searing pain on off targets, and then fears the mob into another pack when he gets aggro lol

Unfortunately most players are not like this. I would say a fair amount of my LOS pulls get interrupted by dps attacking to early and most ignore target marks. My current personal favorite is the shaman who pulled the room in BF with the imps and caster when I was out of mana. I guess I was not pulling fast enough.

Do tanks need to take some control? Yes. I am guilty of not doing this. Those who have never tanked may not understand the mechanics. If I have to chase every mob down, use more mana than I should and blow CD’s, then the run will be much slower.

Welcome to the Toxic players of WOW.
They are ruined on the retail version of dungeons were it’s go go go faster.

They can take there eSport version of dungeon running and stick it and take the Toxic players with you.