Tank Pulling

The Tank pulls.
That has been the way since the beginning.
These Elites can melt dps classes, why would you pull?
If the tank is pulling too slow, let them know the group can handle more pulls faster.
If the tank is letting the healer drink, don’t go all ADHD and start pulling.
If the tank pulls 2 mobs and you wanted 4, because you have to AOE to feel anything in life, don’t just pull more mobs.
Kill the 2 mobs, then kill 2 more, then chain pull if you are killing efficiently.
The group wont wipe, the healer wont go OOM.
You might not be able to cast blizzard, or rain of fire, but the dungeon will go smooth.

Sorry for the 400th Tank thread.

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Because the tank has a taunt and the dps has an aggro dump (hunter) or reduction and the tank said to pull. Been this way since the beginning.

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the taunt isn’t for you for this occasion. Its an “oh sh!t” button to get mobs off the healer. We need it up and available for those moments. Its a waste using it on dps that front loads their damage or dps pullers. While your “dump” if used right after you pull, usual sends all mobs towards the healer. Thus, why we like to pull. Yes, we dont have to pull, we just like to. Makes our jobs a lot easier.

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Wrong. The healer shouldn’t be getting any aggro on the start of a pull; if they are they aren’t doing their job right. Taunt’s isn’t an “ohcrap” button, good tanks use it for way more than that. Chain pulling for example, tank doesn’t have to be the one pulling. What makes tanking easier is working as a group and using everyone’s skills and abilities to the greatest effect.

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At your lvl, tanks aren’t really needed. Most tanks at that level are actually DPS. So it’s sorta pointless. Also wtf is up with all the people trying to type like they are writing poetry in these forums lately?

EDIT: Just to clarify, I always let the tank pull, as I am a lock with no aggro reducing abilities, but at your lvl I am not afraid of tanking the mob myself if I do pull it as I am specced for drain tanking. My HP would barely move during that time.

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You’re the type of dps I enjoy kicking from the group. Pull for me and you can start pulling for another group. You won’t be in my group for long. I’d rather slowly 4 man a dungeon than hecticly get through the dungeon. It’s too darn stressful to constantly chase mobs around because people can’t sit still for 10 seconds.

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Maybe you should try actually reading?

Maybe you should try reading. See how that works? Kthx

wrong is you thinking that pulling and then dumping your aggro wont send mobs to the healer. what usually happens when you pull, you take damage, the healer heals you, he is now second on the aggro table, you dump, hes know first, he gets all the angry mobs… tank is running around like a mad man trying to pick everything up… not a fun time

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Unless it’s a pally drinking, there’s no reason the tank shouldn’t be fast enough to pull.

Nah, in our clique we had hunters pull for us in raid where the range mattered. But in dungeon, we always had the warrior pull. FD and taunt resist happen and warrior bow range is fine in 5 man.

Then in TBC hunter got Misdirect, so they did both.

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Basically saying the tank has Cooldowns to deal with his lack of gud lol

apparently as much as you know how to dps

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Let’s analyze your statement a little more. Say the tank pulls, not the dps. If the healer heals right away and the tank doesn’t generate threat on some mobs they still go for the healer. That has nothing at all to do with the DPS pulling, that’s on the tank not generating enough threat on the mobs and/or the healer throwing out heavy heals too quickly.

Fine for you people who want to pull all the time and refuse to let DPS do it. I’ve let DPS pull in every MMO I’ve tanked in, as long as the group in sync there’s no problem. If you bothered to read my initial comment you’d understand the difference between DPS pulling when the tank wants them to and DPS (or heals) just pulling when they want to and the tank isn’t ready for it.

that has everything to do with dps, if you pull, i cant generate threat. i have no mobs hitting me, which means i have no rage, which means i cant do anything to generate threat. Thats how tank mechanics work bud. and if at that moment you fade, feign death, vanish, my life just got a whole lot harder cause now they’re after my healer…and you dont mess with my healer

and yes, i read you statement. “tank pulling” that wasnt what we were talking about. if that happens then a bad tank is a bad tank. cant help that

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Absolutely true. Except if the tank is cool with DPS pulling then this is a non issue. I’ve had DPS pull around corners and used Charge to intercept the group. Sometimes during chain pulling I’ve had more than enough rage and I tell the DPS to pull the next group. I think we’re probably more in agreement than it appears and apologies if I’m a bit douchey this morning responding to you.

I’m pretty sure this makes your entire argument for the thread invalid since it’s not what the thread is about. Obviously if the tank says to pull, there’s no problem.

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hey look at us! being all civil. are we in the right forums? :smiley:

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In other news, level 40 warrior doesn’t realize DPS opening up on a target allows him to build up threat on the other mobs first, then taunting the first target jumping to the top of threat.

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i’ll say for me it makes it much easier for me in a line of sight pull for the dps to allow the mobs to get to me before they start dps’ing. it’s a real pain when they don’t.