I think Blizzard nerfed tanks right before the world 1st race to nerf the world first tanks, and we all ended up as collateral damage. Be funny if we get more of a tank shortage due to this. Can’t wait to watch what happens next.
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If this was the true intent, then probably a LOT more nerfs. Across the board.
“Oh man, did you see how that warlock survived .1 seconds more than the other guy in that massive AoE? Better nerf their absorb again. Guess 50% wasn’t enough.”
“Did you see how that healer healed? Man, we can’t have that. They need to wipe. Time to reduce their Heals some more.”
“Did that tank just get 1 shot by an ability on that boss? Welp… Better nerf tanks some more.”
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Seems Blizzard new policy, “No Fun, Allowed”
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Blizzard nerfed tanks because a streamer made fun of them.
That’s all there is to it.
It’s pretty pathetic.
(And it’s not JUST that Blizzard can be so easily manipulated and baited. It’s also that the specific issue was Prot Warriors, but because the streamer didn’t specifically say “Prot Warriors are broken” but instead “tanks are broken”, Blizzard didn’t even look at their own game, but just took it at face value and nerfed all tanks across-the-board. And Prot Warrior actually got the smallest nerf of all…)
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My main thing on it is that a blanket nerf to all tanks is never going to be equal.
Especially with the way they nerfed warrior as compared to others.
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This expac is a joke already, cant even log in without a new nerf…and you want us to tank for you gtfo ill pass on this one folks.
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The only tanks that will quit tanking will be the all the prot warriors and everyone else that started tanking during pre patch
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being more powerful than other classes may be fun to you, but likely not to others
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In no other expansion could tanks solo an entire current dungeon at the start of the expansion. In no other expansion could a tank fight 50+ mobs and a boss and win, while the rest of the team is dead.
Tanks are extremely overpowered right now and it shows.
The game is at its healthiest when every player in the group has a role to play, and when the group only succeeds when everyone does their job. That’s not the case right now where the tank doesn’t actually need anyone else. The healer and dps are just along for the ride. If they die, the tank will just solo the dungeon without them.
Having tanks so overpowered incentivizes undesired gameplay. The game isn’t designed for tanks to pull 8 trash pulls and a boss at the same time. Groups are generally supposed to go slowly… 1-2 pulls at a time, and no pulls with a boss. That’s how it has been throughout all of WoW’s history until now. Clearly something is off with the current balance.
I suspect a 10% nerf will do nothing to change this imbalance. A slightly less massively overpowered tank is still a massively overpowered tank.
I think much stronger nerfs will be needed. Perhaps increase damage taken by 30%. Or maybe reduce tank healing by 60%.
Tanks can and should have awesome damage mitigation. But they should not have good self-healing that lets them succeed in dungeons without a healer. Healing should be the healer’s job, not the tank’s.
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Show me the video of a tank soloing a fully mythic dungeon please. This hyperbolic nonsense is getting annoying af.
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Not sure how it’s not when doing high keys in mythic+ PvE content.
I haven’t seen a tank solo a mythic dungeon yet.
However, I have been in many mythic dungeons where after killing a boss the tank ran to the next boss dragging 8 trash pulls along for the ride and then proceeded to fight the trash and the boss at the same time.
These giant trash pulls would usually result in the rest of the group dying. Yet the tank would often still proceed to solo everything that had pulled and be the only survivor with 75% of the group’s damage done.
I can’t recall anytime in WoW’s history other than now where tanks were so strong that they would even consider playing like this.
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More misinformation about tanks doing this in mythic content. I just tried this as an ilvl 380 tank buddy, you’re a liar.
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I am going to need more info on this story.
They pulled a huge train, the group died, and they ended up with this train at the boss.
You didn’t finish what happened here. Did they solo the 8 packs and boss successfully? If you say yes, you are just lying, 100%.
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I’ve had it happen maybe 5 times over the 16 mythic dungeons I cleared since launch.
Three of the times we wiped. The other two, the tank successfully cleared everything with all or most of the rest of the party dead.
More common is to see the tank rush forward and clear 2-3 packs at a time or 1 pack plus a boss. For these smaller pulls, the tank doesn’t die even if the rest of the group does. Or even if the healer is left behind and the tank is on his or her own for a minute before the healer catches up.
This seems to be the hottest of takes if you listen to everyone but so be it. I 100% agree with you though i don’t think tanks should do no healing, just that they should need some help from a healer to survive.
Just because there’s a tank shortage doesn’t mean we should forgo what this game is about, coordinated group content. I bet if tanks could solo all forms of content like they could in MoP more tanks would play but that isn’t healthy for the game, to have tanks doing more dmg than dps and more healing than healers. You can find other ways to incentivize people to play tank without compromising how the game is played at it’s core. I always said tanks should get a bonus like queing for lfr but any time they complete any dungeon, hell even make it better. If you could make say 5k gold by doing a key tanks would come out of the woodwork.
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What do you mean, all or most of the party dead. I thought we were talking about tanks soloing a full wing + boss successfully.
Its weird, but I can’t shake the feeling you are just making up bs as you go! Bizarre!
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8 packs so what they soloed 24 mythic mobs and also the boss. Lol, what a joke.
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It’s happened. Just not every time.
Also, just the fact that tanks think this is a good strategy and are trying it suggests that the tanks think it will work. Tanks would only think this if they had confidence in their self-sustain and damage mitigation.
I don’t recall any other expansion where tanks played this way. Ever.
It never happened, your mom should of taught you that it’s not nice to lie.
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