Tank Brann Needs Better Logic or a Rewrite

Whoever is the dev that is over Brann, please rewrite him from the ground up because he is terrible, and that’s putting it lightly. It doesn’t make sense for a tank NPC to jump all over the place and pulling the whole d*** room. Nemesis npc spawn placement is horrible as well, why have them spawn within 20 ft of each other when you already have a tank npc that doesn’t think and loves to run all over the place using no defensives whatsoever. No wonder he keeps getting robbed of his belongings.

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I think it was sometime during last season they seemed to update his AI to avoid stuff on the ground and now it makes him run far and fast including out of line of sight in some delves. Sadly he still stands in the middle of some of the giant AoEs that were actually annoying, but he moves out of AoEs that wouldn’t even hurt him.

The mega-nerf to his damage after the first week of his release also makes delving as a healer an immensely boring slog.

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Brann of any role needs better AI

he’s awful

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Tank Brann was designed for left of bell curve healers who insisted on “doing content as heals”. If tank Brann was as competent as heal or DPS Brann, or even a halfwit tank player, he’d be immortal and the healer would just be on follow looting corpses

At least with heal or DPS Brann the player still is the one doing the work. Brann hard carries players, especially healer Brann with his OP potions, but you’re still the one generally pulling and doing some semblance of mechanics.

NPC healers, aka left of bell curves, just otherwise would be finger pecking their respective “heal” key like they want to do in other content pillars for rewards…and at least Brann gets a DPS boost as a tank by being healed so they kinda get away with it…but Brann has to be intentionally stupid so they have damage to heal thus something to do.

But ANY healer ALSO has a DPS spec and thus can use healer Brann and his vastly superior capabilities and AI so there is no reason or excuse to actually use tank Brann beyond achievements or masochism.

And anyone actually having a problem with healer or DPS Brann needs to learn how to play. Even in S3, I’ve yet to have any issues with him besides the higher than 0 chance he just decides to lose his spec/curios (which hasn’t happened as of this week too).

Tank players are close to immortal pulling much larger groups than a healer or DPS can handle in 11s even when below the suggested item level.

If they hadn’t nerfed tank Brann’s damage a healer would be doing the same, just mashing healing spells instead of mindlessly pressing DPS buttons and occasional defensives.

Interestingly the aegis curio makes it so tank Brann can actually survive at least smaller pulls without a healer at all because the healing it does is affected by tank Branns healing received modifier. Some DPS are using tank Brann now.

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Brann on end boss of The Dread Pit Season 2 versus Season 3.

  • Maintains his position keeping away from the healer. Now runs to the healer pointing any cone damage.
  • Boss Dives. Brann would just tank him like a tank should versus Brann jumps away doing no damage and runs to the healer at the other end of the field.
  • Brann did really good DPS versus a player Tank vs I might as well be doing ALL the DPSing as well as healing him, me and clearing the floor webs because he has RAN THE BOSS TO ME AGAIN doing no dps.
  • 8 minutes to take the end boss down. Wish I had a DPS meter up to see who did more DPS.

I might just be tired and cranky this morning but Brann has to be a TANK. Revert him back to what he was doing in Season 2. At least he was consistent.

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Well to be fair, it did take them a few weeks to fix him when S2 started…that may be the same case this tier as well.

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Yeah he does act weird as tank I noticed yesterday. It’s like his ranged AI is conflicting with his tank AI, so he starts trying to kite mobs even though he’s tanking? I dunno, he’s back pedaling while shooting the shotgun, wtf is he doing.

It doesn’t matter though, everything is getting completely melted and destroyed in these Delves as Dev. Those Nexus packs get 1 shot in 8s and I don’t plan on doing 11s this season. I’m gonna be Gilded cap this week most likely from doing 7s anyway.

Tank Brann can be annoying, but I wouldn’t say healing him is impossible (then again I only do 8s)

after meeting the worgen hunter in follower dungeons, i realized that brann is a very average hunter (for ai companions)…

that worgen has fleas, i swear it. sending his pet. recalls his pet. bounces around like a crazy person. is halfway across the map for some reason. yes, very average hunter experience.

just wish he could be more like captain whateverhername is. she’s great, most of the time.

one thing i’d REALLY like to change is for brann flakes to not come out of stealth when I come out of stealth. stay in stealth until you are needed, you twit!

Anything below 11s is pretty easy…I do 11s for the crests and 1 heroic piece with the map

I do 11s with him as tank on my rdruid and it’s been … fine. I do more DPS than he does, and I have to work pretty hard sometimes to keep him up, but his survivability isn’t too bad. I’m not sure it’s that much better than running him as DPS like I did last season.

Whatever code keeps him out of AoE is also keeping him constantly sprinting out of efflo though, and that gets old real quick. Blizz spent the last few expacs training us to keep that thing down like carpet and suddenly every time I set it down it sends my tank running for the moon.

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I killed that boss in Kriegval’s in like 20 seconds in an 8, no joke.

Playing as heals in Delves is just slowing yourself.

I was running one of the delves the other day where you have to shoot the ballista to shrink the mechs and then kill them(Can’t remember which delve location). Brann’s DA goes and aggros them for no freaking reason! I was not attacking or in combat with anything and he just starts shooting the mech. So I had to kite the mech back and forth to get it in the area for the ballista to hit it. Multiple packs he did this crap on. Made that delve a dang nightmare scenario.
Brann needs to be an optional companion amd just scale things according like they did with visions. Having him actively trying to grief your T11 delves is super annoying.

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Brann in general needs to be seriously toned down in hopping around all over the place.

Go into combat? He’ll hop around all over the place even if he doesn’t have aggro. And if he does have aggro? He’ll run around even more for some reason.

Stop to take a break? That moron will run into a group of mobs to lean on a wall or gather from a node and pull everything anyway.

Think you’ll use stealth? Good luck getting the idiot to not pull everything anyway. He’ll either just not go into stealth or he’ll attack things you’re trying to skip.

Whoever is in charge of designing Brann’s logic needs to seriously try doing some Delves with him. Because Brann is almost more trouble than he’s worth sometimes.

Hopefully they pay attention and make some actual improvements with Valeera in Midnight.

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Excavation 9 in tank spec Brann hits the turbos and runs all over the place. Then if you get the story with the hydra he spends the entire boss fight doing it whilst doing next to no damage. I mean, I guess I could pull 3 mobs at a time too to cut down on some running, but that would make the delve take 45 minutes given how terrible healer damage is.

Why are you guys forcing yourself to play as healer in Delves, I’m so confused. Sadomasochism?

This is why OBR is not killing the game, people have too much pride to even switch to their DPS role lmao. Having pride over a video game is wild.

Because we do 11s and it’s easier to do as a healer if your class has a healer spec and no tank spec.

Ahhhh a skill issue, gotcha.

depends…i never said it was impossible, i just said it was easier