How can these so called ‘devs’ at blizzard expect people to pay for their game while they literally ignoring so many players and specs. Class balance is still awful… especially tank balance. Our guild druid tank who raided with us for 10 years just quit because he was being out performed by dk, warrior and monk alts that just hit 120 days before. Demon hunters are not in a good place either. High level mythic+ is even worse then raids.
The fact that blizzard has hasn’t done anything other than minor tweaks for 5+ months is embarrassing. For the first time in my life I can say I’m embarrassed to tell people im still playing this game. If the devs don’t want to do their jobs… Fine devs who will before its to late.
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So sad. My shaman friends felt the same way after being left in such a poor state at release. It took blizzard a long time to make them viable again. As for druid tanks, they need a massive damage buff and frenzy rejuvenation needs to be off gcd.
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BfA will forever be the ghetto Xpac.
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That an insult to the ghetto
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Tanks a lot for this thread. Instead of a grizzly bear, they are now care bears.
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Bear tanks honestly just need their artifact ability back and they would be fine.
Vengeance however needs a complete rework. Demon spikes is awful and Meta is an absolute joke of a cooldown.
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Yeah, and Fire Mages just need PF baseline. Blizzard seems to think that if our toons work right at the start of the Xpac, we’re all moving to Bethlehem or something.
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Balance has never been better in WoW
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1 Balance druid and 5 dh tanks have killed Jaina, for sure it’s harder but quitting over that Idk, there’s probably more reasons and balance was the last straw.
It’s known that balance in high m+ or mythic raiding can not be obtain because of how it works, some raid fights will be better designed for some tanks and some tanks are really strong for dungeons. Even in legion when guardian druids were gods in raids, they weren’t used much at high m+ level. As blood dks will always be strong in dungeons because of their kit.
Also, guardian stampeding roar doesn’t seem to have fights much designed around it like antorus or even tos had and shamans seem to be stealing their spot with movement speed totem, maybe they could nerf the totem to make guardian better.
One thing tho, is that most tanks in high mythic raiding guild play multiple characters, expecting one class to be the best on all fight is opening the door to be benched if a class you don’t play got a nice utility on a raid boss (often blood dks for mass grip).
Personnaly I think a small 10% hp buff couldve been welcome, but for now guardian is mostly a pvp spec to carry flags.
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Meanwhile I’ve done 15+ keys with Guardian druid, mythic raid bosses with DH tanks, and every other tank class.
Turns out all the tank classes are still viable. And good players can capitalize on that.
But this is the forums, where most people don’t realise that the meta doesn’t mean “only these classes are good”. It just means that those classes work best. Big difference.
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Ok? OP never said the content can’t be done with them. They clearly said that they are just greatly under performing compared to other tanks. You can take a druid as a tank but generally speaking, you are going to have a much easier time with any other tank. Point is to reduce headaches, not add more.
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I’ve been playing this game too long to be bothered by this. No class is ever at the top of the pile for long. In fact they usually end up nerfed straight to the bottom.
The cycle rolls on.
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Frankly this probably has more to due with insane catchup gear opportunities in BfA than it does to do with Guardian being weak. Also, he’s a tank, what’s he even comparing with the alts? Damage? Irrelevant for the most part. Healing? Varies intentionally based on how the specs function. Idk. Tanking is a really weird role to be competitive about, as long as you can make it work, who cares?
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Except for Blood Death Knights, which have been the undisputed masters of 5-man content since Mists of Pandaria and have been the top Mythic raiding tank since halfway through Legion.
The cycle just doesn’t seem to apply to DK’s.
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Not saying you are wrong but its kind of funny posting on a dk who does not even raid mythic. But hey, everything is find as long as it’s working for you.
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Give them some slack, they’re too busy fixing TBC boss or trying to figure out which portal to remove next.
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It’s better than it was in Uldir.
Druids need attention. They are just flat out missing a defensive CD and self applied slow with the removal of Legion artifacts; when comparing their kit to other tanks. They need some fixing.
Druids aside, the other tanks are pretty okay. Are Monks still the cream of the crop when it comes to smoothing damage? Yeah, no doubt. But it’s not at a level where they are head and shoulders ahead of Paladins and DKs.
DH, is awkward. Some moments I feel unkillable with crazy shard generation, other times it feels like my active mitigation/self healing isn’t doing any work.
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Its much worse than that.
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I cant do mythic content much anymore. My work schedule doesn’t allow for it when I’m away for 4 weeks at a time on a regular basis.
I think brewmasters want a word about the whole “Top mythic Raiding” tanks.
Oh and prot warriors are pulling ahead of blood DKs in high keys these days.
But hey keep telling yourself what you need to to feel better.
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“…since halfway through Legion.”
Come on dude, at least try to read what is said.