Table missions - NF vs. All else

Not sure if this is the best place for this, but here goes:

My main is a Kyrian and my alt is a NF. I can run 8-9 table missions at once without fear of failure as NF, but Kyrian gives me pause if I use 4 heroes with 1 tank troop.

The reason for this is that the trapper is beyond OP. How or was this even tested? Basically the NF basic troop, when you use 4 of them, effectively reduce incoming dmg by 80% for ALL mobs. I no joke was sending lvl 1 heroes out with 4 trappers on lvl 39 missions and winning without the loss of one member of my party.

The Kyrian version of this the trapper is a tank who takes 10% less dmg and offers back line members 10% dmg reduction also.

Yeah…just read that again.

My entire Kyrian list of heroes is constantly in the ER and I have a 2.5k anima bill to heal them or just wait 5-6 hours for them to recover naturally or whatever rank 2 sanctum provides.

My NF’s return, and I send them right back out. I spend 2.5k anima on them too, but just by running so many missions. It’s stupid.

I’m curious if Necrolords and Venthryr are closer to Kyrian or NF, or somewhere between.

And obviously…when is this getting fixed to either buff the crap out of Kyrian or nerf NF into the ground.

I just got the 3rd soul bind - Mikakikos or whatever his steward name is, and I kid you not, his abilities are basically a slightly better version then what you get by rolling 4 trappers. Like, you may as well just call him or his ability “Night Fae experience”.

Of course, I can only send him on one mission at a time, but at least that mission will be successful! Pelagos and co. will just have to wait till their lvl 200.

Also, does every NF hero aoe? I feel like it’s a treat when a Kyrian heroe hits more than 1 thing.

It’s dumb how different the experience is.

And before the “lol, just reroll NF” come in, lets assume that I try to raid mythic content and dps is important to me as a WW monk.

Thank you for reading this.

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NF troops were already nerfed once. Just give it a rest.

lol - NF gang I presume? Nerfed already? Did the previous iteration allow them to reach Mythic Jailer?

e: yeah…NF gang.

Pretty sure Tuesday’s hotfix had some table balance changes. As Venthyr I’ve finally been able to do some level 24 rare missions, where I wouldn’t have even bothered before.

For reference, I’m completing lvl 51 missions with a lvl 15 hero and 4 trappers as of today on my NF.

I have gathered my council of Kyrian generals, and we are strategizing how to conquer the lvl 39 campaign mission. Our previous attempts have been thwarted.

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Can’t complain about Necro Lords. I def. fail missions, but only if I’m using a lot of troops.

Kyrians are the only ones screwed right now. Having a character in every covenant I’m doing well in all of them except Kyrian. Kyrian followers level 30+ are still unable to get the level 24 upgrade mission to complete, all my covenants are progressing very well with few problems.

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Huh. I got robbed by my heroes then.

How do I get them to change their powers?

It would seem you must change to NF my friend. Or complain until we angel people get justice!

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I am Night Fae and my heroes’ powers don’t match up. They are obviously substandard.

Not sure if troll. Here is how you win almost any mission as NF. Ready?

Step 1: Select mission - anything you want, doesn’t matter. Can be a lvl 60 mission and you send a lvl 1 hero.

Step 2: Use only 1 hero. Use 4 trappers to fill out the party.

Step 3: Start mission.

Step 4: Return and collect reward.

You only need to concern yourself with what your heroes do if you are Kyrian (maybe Necrolord/Venthyr idk). Kyrian have the inverse set up where you huddle 4 heroes around 1 tank troop and hope they can survive the mission that’s 10 lvls lower than your heroes.

I’ve tried that. Does not always work. But I’ll try it some more.

Thanks.

Kyrian isn’t so bad now that we Mikanikos, he’s super OP, make sure to level him up asap.

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You’re not wrong. The problem is that we can’t send him on 8 missions at once. His abilities are a buffed version of the standard NF shock troop “trapper”. Yes, he allows winning, but 1 mission at a time. Which I guess for Kyrian is the equivalent of starving and someone giving you a cracker.

There is no universe currently where you can send one Kyrian hero (even Mikanikos) with 4 troops and win.

My hunter in the meantime is soaking up hero’s cache’s of whatever and augment runes out the wahzoo (@1600g/ea).

I just don’t see how Blizzard missed how 80% reduced dmg could be broken. Or…how they thought that sharing 10% dmg reduction to 2 party members is about the same thing.

VICTORY!!!

We did it lads!