So,
we already have this ‘borrowed power’ sanctified system for naxx, which is whatever im not a fan.
But do we really need to tie the naxx set-bonuses to naxx ASWELL ?
shaman tank: 20% reduction against UNDEAD.
rogue tank: cheat death only vs UNDEAD.
lock/warrior: reset CD duration.
so with whatever the next phase/raid is, are we just going to go into it with all of our classes 6-set bonuses being completely useless ?
Honestly part of the fun with wow/sod in general is going back to older raids you struggled with at first and blasting it in BIS gear, with these set bonuses / sanctified pieces we are going to just get weaker outside of naxx ?
This is some retail level borrowed power design.
Or is every raid from now going to be undead themed ?
The design overall for the set bonuses is … hella boring (outside of stuff like priest/mage heal) - so long as mage heal works with mass regen aswell (split between all affected, no one takes regen rune lol)
Every tanks bonus is just, taunt never misses, reduced cooldowns and something happens with undead enemies, nothing really to get excited about.
Most DPS incentives some sort of chain pulling, or stacking the bonus on a pack and insta pulling the boss to not lose stacks ? (good for parsers i guess).
If i want retail level full gear reset each raid tier with some gear catchup mechanic that completely invalidates the older raid tier … ill go play retail.
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It’s funny that there’s people insisting “sod is a beta test for classic+” when all the devs have done is copypaste retail game design into vanilla
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Idk what all the commotion is about borrowed power. I thought the Legion artifacts were the single coolest thing Blizzard has ever done. The artifact weapons were one of the biggest reasons Legion was my favorite expansion.
Perhaps it was something you enjoyed, but the vast majority of people who play SoD - Returning players. Hate (yes hate) retail systems and design, guess why alot of them stopped playing along the way?
Yet Blizzard keeps insisting on feeding us this garbage as if they havent done their homework the last time
ps. class discords are on suicide watch, soo its not just me dooming on the forums
But Legion was a very well-received expansion. Lots of people put Legion in their top 3 expansions, if not their favorite expansion. So, it’s weird to hear that most players hate the Legion artifact system. Seems like Legion artifacts were one of the driving reason why Legion was so fun and engaging.
Maybe other “borrowed power” systems are the issue? Like the Heart of Azeroth and such. I’ll agree, that one kind of sucked.
are you special? SOD players dont want legion gameplay/content wtf xD
This is classic not legion.
It’s a perfectly fine system stop complaining about everything the devs do. People wonder why they don’t communicate anymore…wonder. SOD isn’t for everyone so if you don’t enjoy it then leave and move on to bigger and better things! 
Hope you have a great day Emriz 
No, it isnt. We had 3 solid expansions where people did not like the mechanic, and had many complaints and criticisms that went entirely ignored which resulted surprisingly, in people leaving the game and loss in popularity of Retail. People don’t like borrowed power in the long term. It is a short lived boost at best, but then people realize its a pointless grind with no progression, rather than building on your character, you’re just building on a single dungeon/raid.
Any time I see the phrase “borrowed power” I know the person speaking has no original thoughts and is just parroting someone else’s ideas.
It is a terrible and boaring system. Making all gear outside of nax completely worthless is a horrible design. Yeah im full bis AQ time to replace it with blue gear and dungeon gear because it says “SANCTIFIED” on it… Boaring
What else would you call it then? You are getting a trinket that buffs you based off the number of sanctified pieces of gear you get that only work in nax… Does Temporary Power work for you? Does Location Specific Power work?
boring, its spelled boring. and its not a boring system, its a for fun system exclusive to an instance that they’re testing. they’ve already made qol changes with it making it not locked to a trinket. also it doesn’t make all the gear useless outside of naxx, the gear you get is still really good lol.
morons thinking its still a trinket just on the forums to yap and complain, open your eyes and do actual research before you complain, also pick up a dictionary.
The few set bonuses I’ve seen so far are indeed pretty boring or could use some changes like resto shaman last set bonus being applied to target of earth shield instead of alpha.
Side note: Did anyone confirm in PTR if we still require mooncloth/c. rugged leather/a. bars for T3 set tokens? And if so, if the amounts are the same or less in SoD due to seasonal server?
Dood Nah.
It is a very boaring and lazy system,
You misunderstand. The non Nax gear is USELESS in nax so all that time you spent farming your BIS every phase is now replaced by any item that says “Sanctified” on it. It’s boaring.
According to the last blue post the seal of dawn is still a trinket so idk what you are on about unless they just changed it and did not specify it is no longer a trinket. You also have to upgrade the trinket and it is time gated… It is literally the same thing as heart of boarzeroth and Boaretifact weapons.
A very well, I see you are an intellectual and distinguished gentlemen of a fine taste and refined grammatical pallet. You see, sir, we are in great protest against the implementation of a system into our electronically stored video displayed interactive massive multiplayer role playing game, one which is connected via a interconnected electronically telegraphed global infrastructure. This system primarily integrates a non-productive investment of time and effort on the part of us collectively, known as the “player”, while this investment pays a rapidly accruing appreciation of power to our virtual avatars, the clause of this investment states that the vast majority of this appreciated value may now leave the particular facility, and upon leaving this facility said majority will be rendered null and void. This is undesirable in contrast to a more gradual but compounded and transferable medium of power accrued through efforts of the player for their individual avatars.
I certainly hope my words have done a better job at communicating our grievance with the proposed upcoming methods and strategies in future and continued acquisition of power for our avatars in the remaining time invested in this edition of “World of Warcraft.”
heh bum, the whole thing is boaring. thats ok tho you S keying gamer dads will be hard stuck level 2 of naxx even with your rank 8 marks and full sanct gear. but you gamer dads cant even avoid symple eye beams on cthuun. Meanwhile im on my dads yacht clearing Hardmode content on my steam deck parsing 100s. Heh bums.
i dont really think its borrowed power 4/8 will still be bis hopefully they add more raids and we get to mix match sets bringing in new playstyles. go full 6/8 when u gotta kill some undead though i kinda like the system.
Borrowed power is a term associated with scaling power systems like artifact power and azerite. In reality it is any gain that your character has outside of skills . It is a sliding scale. Most people dont consider gear borrowed power but it is the lowest on the scale. The first “real” borrowed power is set bonuses. These are given and taken when you complete and then break sets the base gear doesnt have ilvl invested in these set bonuses but they are free power granted while wearing specialist gear.