Sylvanas Redemption in Shadowlands - Why it will happen

At this point I’m expecting very little. Just pointing out that a redemption for Sylvanas would be nonsensical given how much they villain bashed her for both factions.

Of course, that might not stop them from trying.

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You want to see her suffer? Her entire existance is suffering. “What joy is there in this curse?” And for your sliver of humanity, how about she didnt signal her rangers to fire when they had her sisters dead in their sights or that she selflessly risks herself to save Varian when his ship is attacked by demons or that her heart is truly shattered when Vareesa sends, basically a text, that she isn’t going to join her in under city.

All post cata. The story is still unfolding. We will learn more in the Shadowlands.

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Her helping Varian was all part of her ploy with the Jailer.

Showing humanity towards Varian and whatever her ploy is with the Jailer doesn’t necessarily have to be mutually exclusive. Her intentions could have truly been altruistic.

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And they could have not been.

It’s been revealed now that Blizzard was doubling down on having Sylvanas not betray just Varian, but Vol’jin as well.

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I don’t think she ever really betrayed Varian. Vol’jin asked her to call a retreat. The Horde was being overrun by demons just like the Alliance. We all would have died that day.

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Blizzard seems to think it was a betrayal. And now they are phrasing it as all to have gotten into the position of Warchief to cause more death. The Maw wouldn’t get any souls the Legion would steal for itself, after all.

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Hmm, I haven’t seen that. Do you have a source? I’d be interested in reading more about that.

J. Allan Brack at the 2017 Blizzcon when introducing BfA at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJCwT6s5e1I&t=1h4m35s :

    Alliance. Alliance. You do not forget the Broken Shore. You do not forget the betrayal that lead to the death of your own King Varian.

And Steve Danuser at last year’s Blizzcon explaining:

    Obviously we had- we’ve seen Sylvanas through the course of Legion, and that intro cinematic, right, when the airships and everything and she’s kind of giving Varian a hand. So, as we get into the Shadowlands we’re going to be finding out a lot of Sylvanas’ motivation and what her relationship with the Jailer is and when it started and we’ll find out that it actually leads back quite a bit earlier in the timeline. You may be familiar with a story called Edge of Night in which Sylvanas lept off the top of Icecrown. And you saw part of the story there. But that was kind of the start of her interactions with the Jailer. And as for why Sylvanas would lend an arrow to aid Varian, there was a long term strategy where Sylvanas needed to get into a position where she could take over the mantle of Warchief, and she couldn’t do that if she was aggro and everyone was against her, so she had to bide her time, and now we’re seeing the fruition of that in Shadowlands.

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It’s largely meaningless since Blizzard has displayed monumental incompetence in establishing any kind of continuity or coherence when it comes to Sylvanas.

Before the Storm gives us access to Sylvanas’ inner thoughts regarding her ascension to Warchief and she makes no reference to the Jailer or wanting to feed the maw. In fact, she curses Vol’jin for dying and naming her Warchief because she’d rather be in the shadows… and this is a book released during BFA.

There is no point in even speculating on where Sylvanas will go as a character because she gets retconned on a weekly basis.

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I suspect they didn’t tell Golden about the Jailer when they asked her to write Before the Storm.

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In that case, major failure in communication on several levels.
And then doubling down on that failure by not nixing the book.
Hell, the D&D books had the OPPOSITE failure. Where they had a vision of how they wanted certain characters to develop, to the point of gutting the author’s work and tying his hands

But this isn’t an irrecoverable blunder. This can be spun in an acceptable way, depending on what they decide is cannon

So let us pretend that you and I are in a fist fight, random non specific person reading this.

You are mad at me because I cooked and ate your children in a master plan to scare you meddling kids off the land I want to build a golf course on. Overreaction? Well, that’s just your opinion, man.

So I try and punch you, and you block. I AM THWARTED! What a setback. I punch again, and miss, then get mad and knee my henchman in the groin because he didn’t believe in me enough. Thwarted again!

Ultimately, you convince enough people that I’m out of my gourd that it is starting to become annoying. Then your friend poke me right in the eye! That REALLY hurt! So I murder him, call you nothing, and run away.

Truly, a world of perpetual setbacks.

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I don’t think they care enough to bother. Novels are like, C or D canon. They can simply ignore her inner thoughts.

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I don’t think so. Sylvanas will be next expansion’s version of Arthas and Tyrande will be next expansion’s version of Sylvanas. Then again, thats just me.

Makes sense. I ignore my inner thoughts all the time. :slight_smile:

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They sure ignored the hell out of Wolfheart. Maiev even has a joke about it in Heroes of the Storm.

People hate there jobs all the time but still do it

Speak for yourself. I’m playing hooky from mine right now. :grin:

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Well sylvanas did just leave