I’m sorry, are you drunk? High? Nothing you’re saying even makes the remotest iota of sense. You’re trying to reply to me, but nothing in your replies is even coherent.
You don’t even realize that you’re talking about two things that Lordaeron did. You want to blame Stormwind for the actions of Lordaeron.
And, yes, you can blame Stormwind for the Orc Camps, which were in Lordaeron and run by the people of Lordaeron. You’ll look like a fool, but you can do it. In fact, after seeing what you’ve written here, I’m sure you will continue to do it.
Just don’t be surprised when people don’t take you seriously.
Oh, and next time you want to go on a rant about “coherent thoughts”, maybe you should bring up arguments I actually made instead of making up things to attack.
And yet we are having this discussion because Thrall’s horde is being blamed for the actions of the Orc invasions (under the control of Mannoroth).
Funny how that works. It’s called “Guilt by Association fallacy”. You have no problem doing it to the Horde but get defensive when it’s done to your faction. How is that NOT proving that you are all hypocrites?
Get back to me when we can start lashing out at Illidan, who was originally evil and thus, pretending he had NO (character) progression in the slightest. Not that I ever remember people constantly going on and on about his past, how he was evil and still is cause fallacy. Oh right-- He was alliance. That’s why. He changed though! He’s an anti hero now. Yeah. Keep talkin.
Anduin is truly evil. He already demonstrated in the Jade Forest that he’s willing to mind-control others to get his way. Who’s to say he doesn’t use mind control to maintain control over the other, much older, smarter, and more qualified Alliance leaders? His “nice” personality is just an act. He became a priest only to learn how to manipulate the minds of others so he can use the armies of his puppets to remove all resistance to his dark masters. Sylvanas is the only hope for Azeroth. Her undeath makes her immune to his dark powers, which is why he wants her dead!
I’m not going to debate if the Alliance is good or evil. But tell me something: why you afirme that Sylvanas, who killed several innocents, did something that can be catalogued as genocide, should not being evil?
Don’t reply me saying that the Aliance it’s worst, i don’t care the Alliance. Just tell me why Sylvanas is not evil considering the things that i said.
The Mag’har Orc storyline is a telling foreshadowing of Anduin. If Anduin hand had not been forced, he would eventually murder everyone that does not follow the light.
Here’s why she isn’t evil: she did it to protect the Horde and those that she loved. They were already at WAR thanks to Genn Greymane restarting it back in legion. It wasn’t genocide, it was a strategical move that proved effective.
No. She didn’t because she thought that war will be imminent. She thought that war eventually will come, maybe in one month, maybe in 50 years, but will come. She didn’t to protect, she was drived by a paranoic idea that war will come, while in the Alliance the main leader was Anduin, and she knows that he is the less belligerent guy in whole Azeroth. Or maybe his roten brain wasn’t able to process that data.
Everybody knows that she lose the capacity to feel love for anybody and anything long time ago.
They wasn’t at war. Read Elegy and A Good War, both sides states that they weren’t at war at all. Just there was fear about an upcoming war (specially for Sylvana’s paranoid).
Ooooooooooof course it wasn’t!!! She only murdered the most population from the region most populated of the Night Elfs. Including not military targets like childrens, elders, regular folks, and so on. Not to mention that she burned a tree/region that is sacred for them.
I agree that get Teldrassil is a key factor in order to the Kalimdor domination by the Horde (that considering if they were actually in war, but that wasn’t the case). But you also can do that (if they were actually in war) just make them prisoners, slaveing them, and several other actions that not are a genocide.
Effective? If for effective you mean make a genocide and don’t get any benefit from the contest land because was completely burned, and also because of that you lost Undercity (a key Bulwark of the Horde in Eastern Lands) for geting in an unnecesary war. Then you have a pretty wrong concept about what “effective” means.
She might of been a bit paranoid but that paranoia was correct as the Alliance were debating about going to war against the Horde, which it would have eventually happened especially with Genn pushing it down Anduins throat. So Sylvanas decided to make the first move instead.
That’s revisionist history. They invaded Azeroth and went on a pillaging spree before they were rounded up and put in camps rather than straight up executed.