It’s a potato.
All part of the plan.
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Are fries also part of the plan?
This actually might be a Wendy’s, holy hell.
It all comes togather …
Just like a fresh, never frozen burger.
Culver’s > Wendy’s

I’ve spotted Erevien threads on GD now, our boy’s trying to make the big leagues.
What is a GD?
Sylvanas is a good character specifically because she’s such a good villain.
Redeeming her would destroy everything that makes her good.
The General Discussion forum. A blighted wasteland with no sense of honor and an all-consuming hunger.
What specifically makes her good?
She is completely and totally selfish, but she’s such a good manipulator that she convinces everyone that she’s actually on their side.
The Forsaken. Garithos. The Horde. The Alliance in the beginning of Legion. And I wouldn’t be surprised if it turns out she’s playing the Jailor too. Heck even the players where fooled. Look how many players think she’s been “butchered” when she’s literally doing exactly what she’s done from the beginning. Playing everybody for her own benefit.
But at this point everyone knows they were played. Now’s the time for people to turn on her and get revenge on her for being used.
If they redeem her that’s just her playing people who really should know better. At that point she’s not a master manipulator, everyone else is just an idiot.
I heartily disagree, and in fact I would say your description sums up all the reasons why I think BTS and BFA severely damaged her character, and why she’s a prime showcase of Blizzard’s terrible writing habits.
I think it’s ridiculous to write a character who is such a “master manipulator” that she literally lies to herself, in her own internal dialogue, as recently as BTS. She hasn’t manipulated anything, Blizzard has only told us that she’s a master manipulator. We still don’t know Sylvanas’s motives, because it’s much easier to dupe an audience into thinking a character is clever if the audience has no idea what the character is aiming for or desires, only for something random to happen that that character then takes credit for. It’s not satisfying, it’s not intriguing, it’s Blizzard jingling keys in front of our faces cooing “Ooh, look at Sylvanas! She’s so mysterious, where’s she gonna go next? Maybe she’s a good Warchief…? Maybe she’s a bad Warchief…? Surprise! She was bad all along. Heehee!”
Sylvanas was not concretely established as selfish and self-serving as you describe. Blizzard toyed with multiple interpretations of Sylvanas, juggling them for years through contradiction upon contradiction, before landing on the one that they in their infinite ““wisdom”” thought could net them the most frothing nerd rage, I assume.
Sorry if this sounds like I’m attacking you. You’re entitled to your own opinions, and I hope you enjoy the story the way you want to, since we’re all here to have fun. I’m just trying to lay out my own thoughts.
No one is going to be surprised if this happens.
The Jailer will be.
None of the players will, and what good is a plot twist if the audience sees it coming?
If they keep playing Sylvanas like they are, then anything resembling a redemption arc in Shadowlands is going to be hard to swallow. She’s just not a likeable character at the moment.
I hate using that word, I truly do, but I will die of pure cringe if this happens.
None of the players will, and what good is a plot twist if the audience sees it coming?
I don’t know, but Blizzard hasn’t had a “twist” I didn’t see coming a mile away for some time now.
The closest they came was Yrel being “Evil” in the Brown Orc recruitment, and even then if you look at anything at all from the Draenei’s side it’s clear the Mag’har aren’t being entirely honest about the conflict and Yrel’s probably still in the right.
This is right up there with the Alliance should get Silvermoon.
This poster is basically the Elesana of horde posters.
This poster is basically the Elesana of horde posters
Eh, maybe in the extremes but the method is different. Where one is the ‘Woe is me and everything Night elf’ the other is ‘I’m right and there’s nothing you can do about it’.
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