I wonder how awkward that must be considering her sisters and nephews are living.
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I mean, sheâs several times implied she intended to kill and raise Vareesa into undeath; and has at least once done the same for Alleria. She doesnât seem to think much of her Nephews. So, I kind of doubt its awkward for her anymore.
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Considering she doesnât think much of males considering how she treats her boy-toy Nathanos.
Like Droité said.
Sylvanas basically tried to even kill her sisters and Alleria did regret to not kill Sylvanas either.
What concept of Sylvanas = pure evil, is so unclear. I mean Blizzard basically had her do every imaginable and disgusting crime.
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I was going to come make a stupid joke like âno she likes meâ but I play an undead lel
(donât reply with some loser bs like âactually she hates undead tooâ like I donât know that crap. itâs a joke calm down)
I donât think she really cares. Knowing how off the deep end she is nowadays she would most likely stab her two nephews in front of Vareesa and then raise them just to spite her.
Yea, but they still said that Sylvanas isnât evil and openly talked about their redemption plans for her.
Times change.
Iâm sure before BFA they had different plans for her, but that changed.
The new narrative and they made absolutely crystal clear, is: Evil as hell.
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Not buying it. Theyâll find a way to shove Sylvanas down our throats even further and once again make Sylvanas look like a mary sure that is superior to the entirety of Azeroth combined. Also, theyâll make Tyrande fail again.
Maybe.
But that would probably cement the player loss.
And after that I wonât care anymore as I wonât continue playing. So it doesnât really bother me irconicly.
Either way.
At this point, Sylvanas doesnât care about anyone but herself. Quite unlikely that gender is an affix here.
Iâm still betting on the possibility that her nephews have long since been dead, and that Vareesa has been living in a delusion.
If we are playing in the silly:
Vareesa never had kids. Rhonin was sterile. When his magic wears off, those âsupposedâ kids will fade away⊠and she will be left dumbfounded. A dumbass banshee that missed the Banshee train when it stopped for her.
The thing is, her interactions with her family - and the living at large - arguably fit right in with the standard symptoms of undeath. Itâs most other Forsaken who break the mold with how they deal with their circumstances. The behavior of Sylvanas and the more deranged fringe Forsaken fit right into the worldview of most languishing wraiths and ghosts haunting the living world in the wake of the trauma and disaster that slew them. They seethe with resentment for the living, obsessing over being separated from the world they used to know and wanting to make everything they loved in life rejoin them in death. So they lash out at the world in general when it turns out the living wonât willingly submit to that fate.
When it comes down to it, Sylvanas arguably comes across like what youâd get if any number of the myriad spiteful and broken undead spirits haunting Azeroth were actually given the power, position and tangibility to do what theyâd really like to do to the living.
Maybe itâs because Lordaeronâs society is so Light-centric, with culturally baked-in ideas of the hereafter that can provide some measure of comfort (i.e. âmaybe this whole undeath thing is the Light still testing usâ) but most normal Forsaken citizens seem to still view their old lives favorably, while Sylvanas is pretty contemptuous of her living self, attributing her death to her old self being too weak to prevail, especially with Arthas gone and the revenge fixation gone with him. Sylvanas simultaneously wants to âsurviveâ and hates herself at the same time - namely, her living self. Unfortunately, hating her living self doesnât leave a whole lot of regard to spare for other living people, because she sees in them all the same frailties that she attributes to her own failure and torment.
So naturally, reuniting with her sisters resulted in a desire to make them join her in undeath. Because everything about them thatâs alive is a reminder of what she loathes about her old self.
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Actually my theory went more along the lines that, Vareesa did give birth but they died shortly after, she snaps, Rhonin uses magic to make her think her they are still alive, she lives in a half-fantasy world, and most people donât dare confront the crazy Elf lady with high level connections, while a few others might use her âchildrenâ as a switch to flip her into a terminator mode to eliminate certain targets. Zendarin Windrunner, and the Purge of Dalaran.
Sylvanas doesnât like that, decides to ârelease herâ through undeath. Anduin off handedly mentions them, she flips back.
Maybe she will meet them in some scenario in the Shadowlands, and then really snap.
This is another cases of Sylvanas lying to herself; she respected Volâjin and Varian in her mind.
Iâve never understood those people that doesnât think Sylvanas is a genius to the core. What other character could possibly out smart themselves? Iâll wait.
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She has contempt for the living yes, but at least up until BfA she had a soft spot for her sisters. Enough to get mournful when she got Alleriaâs necklace and she was happy and looking forward to the idea of Veressa coming to join her in Undercity.
Of course being Sylvanas her love can be said to be warped into possessiveness. Thus why she would consider killing her little sister to raise as a Forsaken so the two would never be parted again.
Honestly itâs that part of Sylvanas Iâm saddest about in their desperate attempt to turn her into a 8D Chess Master God.
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This is a satire of that other thread about Tyrande, isnât itâŠ
Although in that Three Sisters comic she doesnât kill them despite having plenty of Dark Rangers positioned to do precisely that.
Which seems like it might give her some nuance but really she just comes off as a crazy person whoâs ideas donât make any consistent sense.
Like, you also free Derek and Baine as an undercover loyalist. Which would make sense if the long con here was to get to that Second Siege of Orgrimmar to create an even higher body count which does seem to be her end goal.
But then why confront Saurfang at all? Why not just let the battle go down? She threw all that careful maneuvering away just for a grudge match with an insubordinate lieutenant?
She really just comes off as erratic.
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As far as I know she didnât because the feared Aleria and her void powers.