Sylvanas’ fate: NE’s justice denied?

Literally the only thing we ever got was saving a handful of souls from the maw, a small portion of those that actually died. And who knows, maybe they were even killed off in the Jailer invasion.

The other ones were just obliterated, and unless we go back in time, we can’t save them and thus there’s no hope for the Night Elves as a race, especially with writers that hate them and wanted them gone.

Oh I dont know, seeing Sylvanas head on a pike would be quite satisfying as far as I am concerned. Seeing Garrosh turn to ash was quite satiafying for me and would only have been better if he was broken to the point he wanted to destroy himself.

If nothing else at least we can all move on from this mess.

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Ysera wasn’t their “patron dragon aspect”, she was an aspect for druids alone- and she didn’t help Teldrassil grow, Fandral and his druids did that, and Ysera later blessed it to be free of corruption.

Anyway, all this is irrelevant, because Ysera is stuck in the Shadowlands (WQ: bound to Ardenweald) and isn’t going to come to Azeroth to build some new world tree.

Only and only Wild Gods can be reborn through Ardenweald. Tyrande effectively confirms this when she tells Astarii “Watch over us from the boughs”. The NEs aren’t going to be reborn.

I’m sorry it doesn’t - since BfA, the night elves have wanted justice against Sylvanas. The only thing “exciting enough” would be to see that justice served. Not a free ticket redemption card for the mass murderer of their race and to work with her FFS- she showed no remorse towards them until possibly now- with a deus ex “completed soul” card.
That isn’t justice, that’s an easy escape- a means to shut the door on any vindication that the night elves might seek. “Only justice will bring peace.” And there is no justice in having the perpetrator be given a free pass “redemption” by the narrative- not because she felt actual remorse for her actions, but because she wants to stop the Jailer now that she realises she was a fool.

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Devs are concerned with what they like, not the player experience. So in their minds not fixing the damage to NElves is a valid option, I’d say. On top of that, the whole Tyrande’s quest for justice was just a marketing ploy to make people buy the game.

You can already see some tweets about “but the story is not ended” (from a company that barely ever finishes stories), so the point is just to throw puzzle pieces pointing in all directions and hope the people will pay sub fee.


gl hf

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I’m good with that on one condition: that her arc isn’t just Kerrigan again. Kerrigan deinfested was treated by everyone as a different person and even she showed precisely 0 remorse for anything she’d done, they cannot repeat that with Sylvanas. She has to remember it all and has the empathic ability to show remorse for it so she has to or I’m just going to consider it the shallow attempt at redemption without any of the work that it is.

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Tyrande should just kill her. They meet in Oribos, Sylvanas is all sulky and sad. Tyrande has none of it and impales her.

That should be the end of Sylvanas’ story. A crappy, unceremonious end for a crappy, unceremonious character.

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You can’t even redeem her since the Sylvanas that did all those things is essentially gone if she actually got her soul back. Such a weird choice by the writers. She’ll probably end up dealing with the trauma of dying and the emotions to go with the memories of what she did, but I doubt anyone that isn’t a fan of hers will enjoy that.

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No. Killing her won’t solve anything. Death never does. Choose life.

I mean…that was always the implication.

Undead are not the same people they were in life. Never have been.

If Zovaal restored her to her living persona, that’s different from the one that burned Teldrassil.

No

/10char

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No? Or…Yes. Your thirst for vengeance has blinded you to the larger threat.

You absolutely can. Whether people argue Sylvanas is the same person or not is irrelevant. Have her state that she has to make up for what she remembers doing, taking some responsibility for her actions even if they weren’t strictly her own.

Not vengeance… Justice

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Justice was the torching of that hideous elven weed. What a monstrous symbol of Night Elven vanity and a blight on the soul of Azeroth. She did the world a favor that day.

Perhaps she will receive a statue in Stormwind. Anduin once sought the Dark Lady as an ally…but now she will become HIS QUEEN!!!

Blizzard is too cowardly to give one faction the strict justice they deserve. To give Tyrande the satisfaction of putting down Sylvanas would… while fitting; be very unfair to the Horde who repeated the fracturing of the faction by her hands. Both sides have stakes on her corpse or executing her by their own reasons.

I truly don’t believe the Night Elves will see justice done by their own laws or hands. Tyrande is gonna do something with her Night Warrior power, alongside the covenant nonsense to bring Zovaal down. Sylvanas will pull a Kerrigan, and everyone in the Shadowlands will sing Kumbaya. I don’t believe there will be any satisfactory end to this expansion… it is simply impossible now.

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Justice is having Sylvanas head on a pike for all the world to see. :wolf:

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Ultimately going after Slyvanas is treating a symptom not the cause, when were in line to do surgery on the root cause of Zooval.

As much as the NEs and Alliance don’t want to accept or hear it Slyvanas is still a victim in this. Your tree burned because Zooval needed anima from souls and your god saved one of the most anima rich souls instead of your populace.

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Do not mire yourself in petty vengeance. You must think with a clear mind and a strong heart.

Justice is having Sylvanas head on a pike for all the world to see. :wolf:

Clear enough for you?

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She definitely should want to redeem herself and feel the emotional impact of the memories of what she did without her soul, I agree with that. I think that anyone that suddenly woke up with the realization that they killed thousands of innocent people would. The issue with redemption is she is no longer at fault for what she did without a soul and if her story continues, she should have to come to terms with that. For a lot of Night Elf fans I can imagine that would seem like hand waving away her crimes. It also makes the Horde that followed her look even worse, but that’s a completely different topic.