That bears some testing, but from personal experience YES, those will proc Sword Spec, WF and HoJ, but they won’t generate rage. Think absorbs are a special case in that regard. The hit technically lands so it can proc on-hit procs, but won’t generate rage unless unabsorbed damage is dealt.
That’s a sword spec proc. HoJ and WF have unique graphics that distinguish them. WF has the wind animation, HoJ has the feet animation similar to when UD use WotF. Sword spec has no ground animation and looks like a ‘one handed’ swing as a general rule unless overwritten by another animation (because we all know swing animations can be screwy sometimes).
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If you’re going to steal Fight Club research data and not give any credit at least use the most up- to-date data:
Extra attacks
Windfury Totem
- Can proc other extra attacks but not itself
- Can only proc once in a chain of extra attack procs
- For more in-depth information about WF see this wiki entry
Sword Specialization
- Can proc other extra attacks but not itself
- Can only proc once in a chain of extra attack procs
Proc items (Ironfoe, Hand of Justice, etc.)
- Can proc themselves and other extra attacks
- Can proc multiple times in a chain of extra attack procs
Multiple extra attack procs off a single melee swing
- Will show up in the combat log as gaining multiple extra attacks but will only grant extra attack(s) from one source
Multiple extra attack procs off a single instant attack
- Will grant extra attack(s) from all sources
All extra attacks
- Can proc enchants (e.g. Crusader), talents (e.g. Flurry) and items (e.g. Vis’kag, Heroism)
- Reset your main hand swing timer when they proc from your off-hand (e.g Flurry Axe)
- On-next-swing attacks (e.g. Heroic Strike) that are queued while an extra attack proc occurs will be cast immediately
- Multi-target abilities such as Whirlwind or Cleave have a single chance to proc extra attack(s) per-cast (as opposed to a chance per-target hit) as long as the ability hits at least one target
As for the topic at hand; Sword Specialization is not bugged – the testing method is flawed and has an extremely small data set with a high margin of error.
So is the pat vid i linked.
You would think by me saying this way up close to the beginning of the thread, one would assume i would be looking for info from the fight club discord.
I linked from the faq. Is the faq updated? Thank you for sharing the additional info.
Thank you to Magey and the Fight Club discord for all the testing and data gathering/discussion into just about every mechanic in Classic
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That’s not from the FAQ; those are old research notes from the Classic beta pinned in #mechanics at FC. There have been more discoveries since then and you can check the ?extra-attacks trigger on the bot for the most updated information.
My bad,
Thank you. Pinned data / faqs - all the same to me. Last time i asked a simple question regarding procrates, i was abused about why i would be asking for that data, to later find out no data existed on what i had asked for.
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Unfortunately some people are really absurdly sensitive now days and get offended over nothing.
One thing you should never trust tho is other people’s data or problem solving.
When looking for a solution to aproblem, the first biggest lesson I have ever learned was never trust the other guy, and when something doesn’t look or feel right; often it’s broke.
/cough Classic WoW game mechanics.
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Dont trust only one persons data. You cant really get a clear indication until it is cross checked against multiple data points.
True, but still good to do your own testing. You can occasionally find things others completely overlook or discard as unimportant when it could not be further from the truth.
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hoj currently doesn’t proc WF and i’m suspecting it isn’t going to proc sword spec either atm. it’s a bug… see my post on windfury bug. also i don’t think WF procs sword spec or any skills.
Sword spec in vanilla always was able to proc off itself, even in patch 1.12, and didn’t get a internal cool down timer until BC.
I have yet to notice a sword spec proc off itself in classic, even though it should. So it’s either a bug or a left field nerf which is contrary to the original game.
Also, I am still not even getting 5% proc rate for sword spec no matter how many hits I test. The rate seems to fall between 3.5 - 4% with 5 fully specced out talent points. This is with thousands of hits logged and tested over the weeks.