Been leveling this alt. with some gear along the way.
Switching between ambush and sword spec a few times.
depending on what weapon i was using.
Lvl 56 last night seconds before going into ony.
Already attuned to MC. I have 2 tarnished elvin rings. i have thrash blade. HOJ and rogue DM trinket. and devilsaur set. Gear is not lacking by any means.
I find sword spec very un rewarding. I really dont make sure of anything other than SS and SND and eviscerate now and then. there are a ton of white numbers popping up and things go down pretty easy at my level.
But in my 40’s i REALLY enjoyed ambush/back stab. Running around pirates cove I have blast ambushing. gouge. back stabing.
or even opening with cheap shot and trying to get 2 back stabs in during the stun. taking my remorseless attacks to the next mob and opening up with another crit ambush was fun. big flashing numbers and chucks of life falling off my prey. stunning and gouging and kidney shotting was total control and manipulation of the enemy. I liked the feeling of over taking and controlling the target. locking it down. and making big numbers happen.
Sword rogue has always felt bleh. I SS a few times and evisertate… some times i crit and they die. some times i ss some more.
No reason to gouge. no reason to KS . i face tank the mobs and whittle at them.
In dungeons as ambush/back stab i tried to snipe killing blows to activate remorseless and could ambush clothies as openers with 13/-1/2 of their life in one hit. in ZF I had a blast on all the witch doctors and seer’s just exploding them. on the scarabs i could “backstab” crit kill one. activate remorseless. and go right to the next. killing one after another with huge crits and 80% of their HP in one shot. Same thing in RFD. I was a menace on the packs… Snipe a few killing blows and crit everyone to death .
I really came to ask. anyone else with a ambush/back stab dagger build at 60? is it still fun? can it be competitive with swords? can you still blast 60 mobs in 2-3 hits as dagger? or are the health pools to large now at this level.
The meta seems to push everyone onto swords. but daggers seems more fun. anyone else share this experience.
Then go daggers? Weapon style/flavor was the backbone for a lot of classes back then. Now…Not so much.
I’m currently AR, BF, and imp BS. I miss my SF BF build. I think it would work better with imp BS.
Then play daggers. A friend of mine plays backstab daggers and is generally the top DPS in the raid, even above the sword rogues.
Nothing wrong with daggers. I do find a juicy Blade Flurry with an Evis crit pretty satisfying though.
Your alliance, the 5 to sword rating is pretty huge, prob why you see alot of combat rogues running around.
Yeah you will dominate PvE as combat swords. It’s boring but it is effective. I’m a huge advocate of playing how you want to play. That’s what classic was all about. I spent my entire vanilla experience leveling as a backstab rogue. It was slow and painful but it was the most fun I’ve ever had.
I’m leveling during this classic experience as swords and it’s the most boring shyte I’ve ever dealt with. I’m making the switch the moment I get kidney shot. Just have fun man, that’s what the game is all about.
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Swords let you watch movies on a 2nd monitor because you don’t have to stealth, gouge, move behind the target or do much of anything really.
PvP is fun as daggers, and you can grind AV rep for good daggers. Solo PvE as daggers is not fun at all.
Drop the ambush and just go combat daggers.
is it still fun?
Yes its still fun. Not much changes at 60 compared to 1-59.
If you like the bursty nature of it and bigger numbers then you will be happy since your crit rate and max damage will only climb higher and higher.
can it be competitive with swords?
Sure its competitive. In raids I think its SLIGHTLY easier to squeeze more damage out of sword spec due to the weapon talent being better overall than the dagger weapon talent…but I can still top meters and I’m usually top damage (or 1-5) in raids overall on a regular basis. Come BWL swords that might change since there are no new daggers but I will have to see.
can you still blast 60 mobs in 2-3 hits as dagger? or are the health pools to large now at this level.
With a good weapon (Perditions) and gear… pretty much yeah. An ambush, gouge, backstab can instantly kill some mobs. They will usually be near dead if both crit.
I prefer them over swords in PvP as well as I like the more bursty nature of daggers
I’ve never leveled a rogue past 20 or 30. So I may not be the droid you are looking for.
With that out of the way, I say play the style that is the most fun for you. I decided this go round I’m playing for fun.
Yeah. Combat swords is the boring raid spec.
You could always do hemo and swap between swords and daggers as you wish, but you pay a price in not being able to hemo in raids and you lose some dps especially prior to Nax gear. Phenomenal solo and pvp spec though with great survivability. Never been big on assassination spec, but I remember it being pretty solid dps.
This is my 3rd alt and will be 100% pvp so it will be hemo all the way.
Sounds like you prefer daggers. What’s the issue again? Play daggers. Yes you won’t top the meters. So what. There is no challenging content in this version of the game (1.12) since MC was released in 1.0. You’re playing with talents and gear that are way buffed and against mobs and bosses that are way nerfed. Just play however you like. It won’t matter. Just play to have fun.