Survival vote?

You do the exact thing you claim to hate that he’s doing, and you’ve been doing it for six years. Pot meet kettle.

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Bruenor is back to his old “No, you!” when he cant think of something reasonable.

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Okay white knight betty… why don’t you tell all of us what the difference is between Bepples saying he doesn’t care about someone’s opinion versus someone saying it to him? We’re all waiting with bated breath to see your slobbering defense of him.

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If not caring about an opinion is so offensive to you maybe you are too easily offended.

What you actually say isn’t the point and is in no way relevant. You being a hypocrite is the entire point. As an aside, it’s also completely untrue that you don’t care since you write novellas to disagree with people.

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You’ve spent past 6 years being offended that you lost a toy…

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Gandalf and warcraft mages are known for their magical skills not sword skills.

LOTR would’ve been a very different story if Gandalf could open portals.

Gandalf and warcraft mages share an aesthetic that dominates every fantasy archetype, the inclusion of melee weapons. Only WoW’s BM and MM hunters have been restricted from having melee weapons as part of their aesthetic. Warcraft mages can equip daggers, swords, staves. Priests can equip daggers, staves, maces… warlocks…

There is no reason not to have melee weapons as part of the hunter aesthetic for all hunters. “Blablabla have to get two weapons…” yes… I know. Despite so many classes and specs also needing to get two weapons, or a weapon and a shield, or an offhand, we also could just make class specific weapon tokens at endgame, that cover both the ranged and melee weapon for hunters, both weapons for fury warriors, the weapon and shield for elemental shamans, the mace and offhand for priests. There is no reason we cant have weapon sets as personal loot options.

Just make SV ranged again and give ALL hunters melee weapons.

Warlocks open portals, Mages just blink :slight_smile:

I don’t care for melee opinions as in I think they shouldn’t be listened to. I do care that Blizzard rewards greedy melee players and it needs to stop.

In any case this whole arc of trying to make me ashamed or say I’m a hypocrite for saying that I don’t care about melee player opinions will never work and I’m still struggling to see how you arrived on this train of thought.

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If that’s the sacrifice the class has to make to get RSV back, so be it.

Stat sticks don’t bother me. I just don’t want my ranged abilities replaced with melee ones. I don’t want to be forced into melee for any reason.

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I think harpoon, raptor strike (a version of, not necessarily current rs), and wing clip could be baseline abilities, particularly so as not to make new hunters feel disoriented when choosing SV.

Harpoon could be important, even if SV goes back to a mostly ranged spec, to help hunters land traps in PvP and to give added mobility. It is also thematic. There could also be a talent that buffs RS (mongoose or not) to preserve the hybrid playstyle option. The alternative options on that talent row could be different damage types, not necessarily weaker talents. For example, since RS is a physical damage ability, you could have a poison damage talent and an AOE bleed sharing that row.

Naaaw. I’m still a normal Tauren like all you!

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No no no no. Having melee stat sticks is one thing. Expanding the melee identity to the whole class is another.

Bm is the only spec that should have melee abilities. And that’s only IF they have selected the optional melee playstyle via a talent.

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Actually I just pointed out that many on hunter forums who have some achievements of their game time, pretend they are designers of hunters, and that is for few reasons

  1. If someone comes up with thread about hunter rework or suggestion, mostly about SV, there is certain amount of same forum users, explaining how SV was better back then and should never be touched. Again your opinion, if it was better blizzard would leave it as it is. They where looking for deeper design
  2. You determine how someone is skilled based of some in game achievement, yea please. Ill that can be purchased in one bundle today. And as well you said based on my comment? No matter how classes where design back then or how talents where covering whole class, still ranged SV didn’t had any depth besides being pvp favorite spec. You can argue with me back then but you contradict any streamer and video thats on you tube talking how ranged SV was pvp spec. If you played it in pve that’s you choice, same how people choose to like SV hunter now.

Again argue as much as you want, thankfully Blizzard has their own developers who decided like this, and I hope they keep to this design. You can cry as much as you, you just want to be lazy and ignore mechanics that melee can’t ignore. You have specs and play them.

When they changed demonology spec to be spec with only demons I changed to different spec. You have that choice as well. If you can’t give people advice on something don’t give your non developer insight about “How spec should have been”

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Please explain how a wannabe beastmaster with BOMBS qualifies as “deeper design”.

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Hey anythings better than choosing between MM with direct damage and MM with dots lol

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The original MSV got canned after 1 expansion.

Current MSV, the least melee melee spec in the game, practically begs ranged players to play it.

Evidently it isnt.

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Nah it’s better this way

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In what way is it better tho?

Virtually no one plays it anymore. You can’t spin failure into a success story.

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